Wisconsin Megathread v3: GOP in MASSIVE DISARRAY

[Antonio the Sixth]

So what the f**k is going on in SD-8? What is actually left to count and when will they actually count it?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Shoot, the State Senate will still have a R Senate SuperMajority? That ain't good.

Yeah, this throws a massive asterisk over every other electoral win. For all intents and purposes, Scott Walker is back in power in Madison until and unless the WISC forces new legislative elections under fair maps.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Shoot, the State Senate will still have a R Senate SuperMajority? That ain't good.

Yeah, this throws a massive asterisk over every other electoral win. For all intents and purposes, Scott Walker is back in power in Madison until and unless the WISC forces new legislative elections under fair maps.

They don't have a super majority in the Assembly.

Ohhh my bad. That's a huge relief.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Glad to see Wisconsin could have a shot at being a functioning representative democracy again. Hopefully the new court majority will swiftly throw out the gerrymandered maps before the legislature can pull off any impeachment bullsh*t.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'd caution everyone from assuming that this is somehow the new baseline for Wisconsin. Clearly if the past few years shows us anything, it's that Wisconsinites overwhelmingly want a progressive-leaning Supreme Court, but are a lot more evenly split in statewide or federal races. Heck, we've seen it even in the SD-8 election, where the Democratic candidate ran significantly behind Protasiewicz.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'd caution everyone from assuming that this is somehow the new baseline for Wisconsin. Clearly if the past few years shows us anything, it's that Wisconsinites overwhelmingly want a progressive-leaning Supreme Court, but are a lot more evenly split in statewide or federal races. Heck, we've seen it even in the SD-8 election, where the Democratic candidate ran significantly behind Protasiewicz.

Was it really significantly? I thought people calculated that she likely only won it by a few %, if that.

I think I saw somewhere that she won it by 3. Since it looks like the Dem lost it by 2, that's a 5-point overperformance. And you have to consider that coattails played a part as well.

[Antonio the Sixth]

OK, so it's more like a 3-point underperformance, which would still imply something like a D+8 statewide vote. A strong result for sure, although I'd still be wary of applying the patterns of an off-year election to a presidential one. We've seen that the dynamics are very different.

[Antonio the Sixth]

lmao, apparently this meme even applies to courts



Kudos on Dems in MI, WI and MN for actually playing to win. It would really be nice to see that spirit at the national level.

[Antonio the Sixth]

lmao, apparently this meme even applies to courts



Kudos on Dems in MI, WI and MN for actually playing to win. It would really be nice to see that spirit at the national level.

Its more a case of the Dems in the midwest following the GoPs lead on that and indeed in new york when republicans have had some power they didn't immediately try and get abortion bans. When you have actual polarization, this is the result.

The last time the GOP actually controlled the NY state government was before this era of polarization. If you're talking about the IDC years, the GOP obviously wasn't driving the agenda, but given its position still punched way above its weight policy-wise. This is not a "both sides" state culture thing: it's Democrats specifically being useless, complacent b*tches in many states they control (and even often at the federal level). Midwestern Dems are a welcome change from this and they should be a model for the party everywhere.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Cope harder

https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/status/1687190869814755330

Scott Walker's legacy is gonna be wiped out now ugh.

Best possible timeline

Sucks to suck!

[Antonio the Sixth]

https://www.wpr.org/assembly-speaker-robin-vos-calls-justice-janet-protasiewicz-recuse-cases

Wisconsin Assembly Speaker renews calls for Protasiewicz to recuse herself from certain cases

Robin Vos raises the possibility of starting impeachment process, but cautions it should be not be undertaken lightly

Remember that Evers would appoint a replacement to any justice who is successfully impeached, and we all know the likely political leanings of such an appointment.

Could he just immediately reappoint Protasiewicz? That'd be amazing.

[Antonio the Sixth]

https://www.wpr.org/assembly-speaker-robin-vos-calls-justice-janet-protasiewicz-recuse-cases

Wisconsin Assembly Speaker renews calls for Protasiewicz to recuse herself from certain cases

Robin Vos raises the possibility of starting impeachment process, but cautions it should be not be undertaken lightly

Remember that Evers would appoint a replacement to any justice who is successfully impeached, and we all know the likely political leanings of such an appointment.

Could he just immediately reappoint Protasiewicz? That'd be amazing.

Here is the fear. The Assembly impeaches Protasiewicz, which only requires a simple majority. She would then lose all authority until there is a judgement in her trial in the Senate, which there it would require a 2/3rds majority to remove. The issue is that the Senate could then sit on starting her trial for as long as they want. Basically turn the court into a 3-3 tie for as long as they wish.

That would be their plan. Now to get around that, my guess is that Protasiewicz would sue in Dane County requiring that they start her trial, they would agree, the appeals court would as well, and a 3-3 tie at the Supreme Court would mean the lower court's ruling would stand and they'd have to get on with the trial. But this would all take time and push the any redistricting ruling way to close to 2024, to the point the Federal courts would probably step in and say that it's too close to the election to change the maps.

Yeeesh. Well, let's hope it doesn't come to this.