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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: January 22, 2011, 08:00:05 AM »

Actually, I noticed that at the beginning the riots hurt both Algeria and Tunisia, but apparently they weren't as massive there.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 04:53:41 AM »

Well I wouldn't mind revolutions in the first four, but deposing the monarchy in Jordan would be a tragedy.

Why ?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 12:21:53 PM »

Well I wouldn't mind revolutions in the first four, but deposing the monarchy in Jordan would be a tragedy.

Why ?

Whatever replaces it won't be so nice.....

Why not ? We didn't speak about which regime we would replace the current ones with. Just that the current ones should fall.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 01:40:36 PM »

Well I wouldn't mind revolutions in the first four, but deposing the monarchy in Jordan would be a tragedy.

Why ?

Whatever replaces it won't be so nice.....

Why not ? We didn't speak about which regime we would replace the current ones with. Just that the current ones should fall.

Would you be ok with Islamists taking over Jordan? Personally I would be fine with it because I am not a Jordanian and my opinion doesn't count. That doesn't mean don't I prefer a secular monarchy to it (with a secular democracy being the dream).

I was not reasoning comparatively. The Jordanian monarchy is an awful regime no matter what the alternatives are.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 08:50:04 AM »

Hey Lief, About those countries that you wouldn't mind revolution in...

Egypt: led by the NDP - Social democrats and members of Socialist International
Tunisia: I guess until recently, the CDR - formerly members of Socialist International
Algeria: Parliament led by  the NFL- an socialist party.
Libya: Controlled by Gaddafi, a socialist dictator.

Sudan: The only one of the 5 with a right-wing government.

Just thought I'd mention it. Tongue

Fail.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2011, 09:27:50 AM »

Dictatorial parties don't have an "ideology" besides keeping power.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 08:40:27 AM »

Dictatorial parties don't have an "ideology" besides keeping power.

That's not strictly true. If we look at the example of Bangladesh, BAKSAL was clearly to the left of the BNP. The point stands, though.

Yeah, of course there are a lot of exceptions usually. Ideology can be very strong in totalitarian regimes, it's easy to find examples in the history. But generally, I think ideology tends to fade away when a party holds power for too much time. China is of course the best example of that.
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