Will this Berlusconi government finally collapse?

[Antonio the Sixth]

I've been waiting for this for years, but I really startthinking this guy is just invulnerable.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I've been waiting for this for years, but I really startthinking this guy is just invulnerable.

After this guy is gone, Italy will come under speculative attack by the bond markets. The Left will then take the blame. We've seen it happen before... we need to keep Berlusconi in there because he has been doing a good job protecting Italy from the bond markets. They seem to be friendlier towards right wing governments.

That's utterly silly.

[Antonio the Sixth]

It'd be hilarious depressing if he lost confidence, then won an ensuing election.

Fixed

[Antonio the Sixth]

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Lol, no. I think we're on the same side in the sense that if what happens in Italy is as benign as the Pentapartito unraveling, it's certainly see no problem with it. What I'm more afraid of is what happened in the aftermath of the New Democracy defeat in Greece in 2009-- only multiply by a factor of 5 or 10.

The defeat of ND caused the Greek crisis ? LOL

[Antonio the Sixth]

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Lol, no. I think we're on the same side in the sense that if what happens in Italy is as benign as the Pentapartito unraveling, it's certainly see no problem with it. What I'm more afraid of is what happened in the aftermath of the New Democracy defeat in Greece in 2009-- only multiply by a factor of 5 or 10.

The defeat of ND caused the Greek crisis ? LOL

Yeah, that ought to be the 'stupid comment of the year' or something.

Defeat of ND caused the Greek crisis because the next government came in and tried to come clean. Also, I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory, but there are very few left wing governments in Europe but all of the countries targeted thus far have been run by left of center governments. Even Fianna Fail is to some extent, though in reality they are only centrist. Thus, the bond markets might have been protecting Italy thus far due to Berlusconi. If it gets an unstable or left wing government all hell will break loose.

Regardless, we can all agree that Italy has held up very well under Berlusconi. It is the only PIIGS whose bond spreads haven't spiked massively. Yet it has the highest debt to GDP besides Greece. For the average Italian person, this is much more important than a sex scandal.

This is getting more and more absurd.

Fianna Fàil is left-wing ? LOL
And what about the USA ? If you consider FF to be left-wing I doubt you can deny democrats to be left-wing too. And yet, it is still fine with markets depsite having one of the most colossal debts ever seen.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Unfortunately yes, and this is how the @sshole will achieve it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/10/silvio-berlusconi-italy-mps-votes

Why am I not surprised ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, I heard about this. Please remember that I want him to lose this but I have to say that of course he'll be accused of doing this. It doesn't matter even if it isn't remotely true; it will always be said and believed by a good amount of people.

With Berlusconi, presumption of guilt is always the right thing to do.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Unfortunately yes, and this is how the @sshole will achieve it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/10/silvio-berlusconi-italy-mps-votes

Why am I not surprised ?

He has a place assured for him in the Brazilian Senate now

I rather think that Berlusconi would like to welcome some Brazilian Senators in his government.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Crossing fingers...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ok.