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« on: October 10, 2008, 07:53:01 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2008, 07:58:10 PM »

This is the exact thing we don't need more of...


Yep, political torpedoing during an election over a non-issue.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2008, 08:01:33 PM »

This is the exact thing we don't need more of...


Yep, political torpedoing during an election over a non-issue.

He meant abuses of power by elected officials, which is worse than what you're referring to

An individual in an appointed position serves at the discretion of the Governor. Andrew Johnson and Grant did the same sorts of things.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2008, 08:05:53 PM »

This trooper deserved to be fired, plain and simple.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2008, 08:11:58 PM »


Did his boss deserve to be fired as well?

10 Republicans and 4 Democrats ran this investigation. Palin abused her powers for personal gain, plain and simple.


Yes, because his boss refused to fire him.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2008, 08:18:32 PM »

You can't fire a trooper for non-illegal things he does off-duty. There's no record of him doing a poor duty on the job.

Palin abused her power for personal gain. End of story.

Yeah, tasering a twelve year old and beating your wife aren't illegal!
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2008, 08:22:38 PM »

You can't fire a trooper for non-illegal things he does off-duty. There's no record of him doing a poor duty on the job.

Palin abused her power for personal gain. End of story.

Yeah, tasering a twelve year old and beating your wife aren't illegal!

You must have very lax libel laws in the states.

Rumours and hearsay.

That's known fact.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2008, 08:24:24 PM »

http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/trooper-admits-he-tasered-palin-nephew/

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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2008, 08:29:14 PM »

Just had a really bad feeling in my water about Saintly Sarah and have done since that day in Dayton, Ohio

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Yeah and I have a bad feeling about uppity Obama, so whatever.


Wasn't that a matter for him to be prosecuted and let justice run its course?

Dave

Yes, but in the states MOST officers would be fired for such actions as that and for drinking on the job.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2008, 08:32:38 PM »


Did his boss deserve to be fired as well?

10 Republicans and 4 Democrats ran this investigation. Palin abused her powers for personal gain, plain and simple.


Yes, because his boss refused to fire him.

I want you to be completely honest with me.  If this were Governor Howard Dean -- under the same exact circumstances -- would you have the same view?

Moneghan committed no crime -- not even insubordination.  Palin has repeatedly denied that she fired him for refusing to fire the trooper.  As for the trooper, I agree with you -- I'd have fired him in a New York minute -- just as soon as he was found guilty in a court of law.



Yes, I would have defended Dean, to be honest. I really am staunch about stuff like this. Most departments would have canned that officer before he was tried.
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2008, 08:34:41 PM »

This is the exact thing we don't need more of...


Yep, political torpedoing during an election over a non-issue.

Potential unlawful abuse of power is a non-issue? I would disagree.

An appointed political official serves a the governors/presidents pleasure. Ask the attorneys Bush fired.
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2008, 08:39:23 PM »

We have officers fired quite a bit for less then that.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23197160/
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2008, 08:44:14 PM »

I dont understand why the Republicans are arguing in support of Sarah, when the fact is the group of 4 Democrats and 10 Republicans, I repeat 10 Republicans found her guilty of abusing power !! This is just insane, or is it Republicans first and Country second, I dont understand !

She is corrupt. She is toast and McCain is history.

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So quit spinning.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2008, 08:49:33 PM »


Unlikely from a left wing, DUer.
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2008, 08:59:39 PM »

Funny thing is, that the trooper himself is not saying anything about this.
Possibly he is not the horrible person that the Republicans want him to be, who knows?


Yeah, tasering a child and drinking while on duty is acceptable. Especially if it enhances your political stance!
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2008, 09:05:50 PM »

The first rule to picking a vice president DO NO HARM.

Yeah :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXrsOe2spDE
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2008, 10:47:48 PM »


More like skimmed.  Lot of garbage in between the important stuff.  As a lawyer, you have to learn this technique, otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts.

Cheesy I thought "nuts" was a job requirement for a lawyer?
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2008, 11:17:15 PM »

You can't fire a trooper for non-illegal things he does off-duty. There's no record of him doing a poor duty on the job.

Palin abused her power for personal gain. End of story.

Yeah, tasering a twelve year old and beating your wife aren't illegal!

He was never found guilty in a court of law of beating his wife or hurting his son.

Irrelevant in the real world; aka the Court of Public Opinion.
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2008, 11:25:33 PM »

There is no way to spin this as anything other than a negative for McCain/Palin.

According to a bipartisan commission (i.e., 10 Republicans & 4 Democrats) consisting of the upper-echelon of the state's legislative branch, she abused her power as governor and violated state ethics law.

Yes, of course the Obama media will spin it negatively against Palin. They hate her, mostly because she's a conservative and a female. The fact is in the normal world people would want to see a loose cannon police officer fired for such reckless and stupid actions. The media however calls the issue with the trooper a "messy divorce", which, although partly true, is disingenuous to the actual situation. And you keep leaving out the line that says "no legal action should be taken". Please, when you spin don't leave facts out, ok?
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2008, 11:46:54 PM »

In the normal world, a majority of people will now see Sarah Palin as being Dick Cheney with lipstick.

After the election is over, make sure to tell McCain he did one heck of a job in picking his running mate, OK?

Keep spinning away hack.

Just remember "no legal action needs to be taken".
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2008, 11:49:21 PM »

Seems the republican party has a problem with this Cheney, Nixion etc...  Its funny to hear you defend abuse of power , although you have know problem calling Obama a socialist.
 

Glad to see you've finally stopped lying about being a Republican. Since you really have no credibility after that, should I even bother with you? Nah, just read what's been said already, no need to go over this again with the likes of you.
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2008, 11:57:05 PM »

Whether or not legal action needs to be taken, you better get used to seeing Florida in the Obama/Biden column, bud Smiley

I've already prepared myself for that. I do have comfort in knowing all the good counties of Florida will be going for McCain however.
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2008, 12:04:37 AM »

Whether or not legal action needs to be taken, you better get used to seeing Florida in the Obama/Biden column, bud Smiley

I've already prepared myself for that. I do have comfort in knowing all the good counties of Florida will be going for McCain however.

If you say so. BTW, do you think Rock Hudson, Reagan's old pal, is in heaven?

Don't know, don't care. Yeah! Try a religious attack on a classical deist.
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2008, 12:10:01 AM »

That's a stupid comparison but I'm considering the source.

So are you saying that being gay = terrorist? Even I don't believe that sh*t, you're disgusting.
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2008, 12:13:37 AM »

What about Rezko, Acorn, Wright, need I really continue?
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