Parential notification for abortion

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I favor parental notificarion for an abortion. The girls paretns won't "kill" them if she tells she is preganant. (At least I would hope not)

I don't know if you've ever known or conversed with a girl who's parents found out that she had an abortion.  The parents ended up kicking her out of the house the day she turned 18, and haven't exactly spoken to her since.

Kicking an unruly child out of your home isn't always the wrong thing to do. I've known quite a few people who've done it and it ended up being the best thing for the child.

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There are excpetions to abortion.  I oppose it.  A child is something a girl is responsible for for the next 18 years and it should be her choice.  Nation is right, some parents are assholes and have no scruples either.

Would you be upset if/when your son/daughter got a tattoo without your knowledge?

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There are excpetions to abortion.  I oppose it.  A child is something a girl is responsible for for the next 18 years and it should be her choice.  Nation is right, some parents are assholes and have no scruples either.

Would you be upset if/when your son/daughter got a tattoo without your knowledge?

I would make an exception for that and it would be 14.  With abortion a number of things can happen like the father raping her or either parent beating her.  And yes in Nation's case throwing her out of teh house for no other reason.

You dodged the question. Would you be upset if your child went behind your back and got a tattoo w/out telling you? And I strongly do believe in throwing an 18y.o. out the door once they hit 18. It gives them a good lesson in life.

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What she does with her body is her business.

After she's eighteen, maybe, but not as a minor. She would need permission for a tatoo, or a peircing, why not a medical proceedure?

Do you think a minor would want to spend the remainder of her young life, what would be her college years, and what would be her first years in the working world had she not spent her college money on her child, well, raising a child?

I'm with BRTD on this one as well. Tattoos and piercings are also one's own business.

And I would be upset if my child had a tattoo, but it's still his/hers choice. I would simply warn them of what would come if she didn't consider herself to be associated with her tattoo in the future. They got the tattoo, and their only punishment should be having to live that tattoo down.

A childs business is the parents business until they leave their parents roof, plain and simple. IF she made the mistake of getting pregnant in the first place that is the CONSEQUENCE of her stupid/ignorant actions. Of course if you teach your children responsiblity your chances of that happening go down. (Note: I did NOT say disappear, so don't stick words in my mouth.)

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There are excpetions to abortion.  I oppose it.  A child is something a girl is responsible for for the next 18 years and it should be her choice.  Nation is right, some parents are assholes and have no scruples either.

Would you be upset if/when your son/daughter got a tattoo without your knowledge?

I would make an exception for that and it would be 14.  With abortion a number of things can happen like the father raping her or either parent beating her.  And yes in Nation's case throwing her out of teh house for no other reason.

You dodged the question. Would you be upset if your child went behind your back and got a tattoo w/out telling you? And I strongly do believe in throwing an 18y.o. out the door once they hit 18. It gives them a good lesson in life.

Sure I would be upset.  But what does that have to do with abortion?  The child lives with the tattoo and can easily have it removed as should a baby in the 1st 2 trimesters without restrictions.

First off a child under 18 has no real constitutional rights to privacy. (If the right to privacy is really in the constitution in the first place) If a child lives in their parents house and 'takes' from their parents, meaning food and shelter, then they should be obligated to follow ttheir parents rules. If they violate those rules on a regular basis then they should be thrown out.

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What she does with her body is her business.

After she's eighteen, maybe, but not as a minor. She would need permission for a tatoo, or a peircing, why not a medical proceedure?

Do you think a minor would want to spend the remainder of her young life, what would be her college years, and what would be her first years in the working world had she not spent her college money on her child, well, raising a child?

I'm with BRTD on this one as well. Tattoos and piercings are also one's own business.

And I would be upset if my child had a tattoo, but it's still his/hers choice. I would simply warn them of what would come if she didn't consider herself to be associated with her tattoo in the future. They got the tattoo, and their only punishment should be having to live that tattoo down.

A childs business is the parents business until they leave their parents roof, plain and simple. IF she made the mistake of getting pregnant in the first place that is the CONSEQUENCE of her stupid/ignorant actions. Of course if you teach your children responsiblity your chances of that happening go down. (Note: I did NOT say disappear, so don't stick words in my mouth.)

Well, if it is a consequence of her, she should have the right to choose PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

If she is under 18 she has no "right" to choose. She is still under the stewardship of her parents.

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A decision like this should not have to rely on the "stewardship" of her parents.  Her parents can be poor stewards and this is a decision a woman will have to lvie with far beyond age 18 without any parental support.  I would like to make life easier and say the decision should not be given to the whim of the parent.

The courts could decide in that case who is best fit to make the decision for the child. Thats why we have a whole 'child court system'. And who is the judge if the parents are poor stewards? The child herself? Obviously, no, for the fact that she may disagree with her parents and call them 'bad' simply for disagreeing with her. If you are under 18 you can't vote and have very few constitutional rights to do anything.

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So the parent should be responsible for the child conceived under 18 until that's 18?  And no parents do not OWN their children until 18.  A father can't have sex with his daughter because it's an object.  That was in Roman times buddy. 

I did not word that well. What I ment that is the parent is responsible for his/her child until he/she is eighteen. No they do not "own" the child, but they are responsible for it's wellbeing.

Yes, but your comment is essentially correct. Although parents don't 'own' their children. They steer much of a childs destiny and where/what/how a child does what he/she does.

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A decision like this should not have to rely on the "stewardship" of her parents.  Her parents can be poor stewards and this is a decision a woman will have to lvie with far beyond age 18 without any parental support.  I would like to make life easier and say the decision should not be given to the whim of the parent.

The courts could decide in that case who is best fit to make the decision for the child. Thats why we have a whole 'child court system'. And who is the judge if the parents are poor stewards? The child herself? Obviously, no, for the fact that she may disagree with her parents and call them 'bad' simply for disagreeing with her. If you are under 18 you can't vote and have very few constitutional rights to do anything.

Courts are a bunch of buraucracy and very expensive.  It should not be left up to the courts because it takes too much time.

I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment. But who/what should be responsible for parental oversight? Courts/Schools/Church?

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Here in Florida Parental Notification is now required by law. If they lowered the age of consent to 16 it could solve a lot of problems.

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Children under the age of 18 do NOT have every right which exists in the constitution.