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pbrower2a
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« on: March 06, 2016, 12:59:30 PM »
« edited: March 06, 2016, 03:31:38 PM by pbrower2a »


Worse -- far worse! Take a good look at 2012. Mitt Romney came close to defeating an above-average incumbent President. I'm tempted to believe that he wins more electoral votes than Trump should he run Third Party or Independent.

I think Romney would have a chance in this election.

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With Michigan this far out of contention for Trump, even Indiana will not be safe for him.

Obama approval is at 50% in Michigan.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2016, 02:50:56 PM »

Strongest D performances ever in Michigan:

Johnson 66, Goldwater 33 -- 1964
Obama 57, McCain 41 -- 2008
FDR 56, Landon 39 -- 1936
Obama 54, Romney 45 -- 2012
Clinton 52, Dole 38, Perot 9 -- 1996
FDR 52, Hoover 44 -- 1932
Kennedy 51, Nixon 49 -- 1960
FDR 49.56, Willkie 49.85 -- 1944

I don't quite know where to put Clinton 43, Bush 36, Perot 19 in 1992.

Barring a boring landslide in November, 57-41 for a Democrat is the max-out for any Democrat in 2016.

PPP is polling Ohio this weekend, and this poll suggests that the only Republican who has a chance in November in Ohio is John Kasich.

Michigan is about D+5 now, about like Connecticut and Maryland.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2016, 05:41:01 PM »

The polls for Pennsylvania are old -- from December, when Hillary Clinton was reeling in all polls due to the run-up to the investigation of the private server and Benghazi.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2016, 01:47:38 AM »

Bernie just mentioned his 22 point lead in the debate.

You've been posting on this forum for 12 years and you still cannot understand that early polls mean nothing.

Early polls can say much, such as

(1) that a candidate has serious weaknesses that can make him irrelevant.
(2) now some states are oriented in partisan politics.
(3) results of events.
(4) collapses.

All are big deals.

 
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2016, 11:10:02 PM »

Primary results tonight show that Michigan is going to be very close in a Clinton vs. TRUMP general. We can safely say that TRUMP will pick up Bernie's working class whites.


No, you can't say that safely, at least yet.

I expect Hillary Clinton  to do everything possible to solidify the working-class white votes that Sanders got that Obama could not. She needs a coalition for victory, and she will need those Sanders voters to win election, flip the Senate, and maybe even flip the House.

Obama did horribly among working-class white voters, especially in the South. Maybe that's because he is... well, you know.
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