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pbrower2a
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« on: October 22, 2010, 02:27:04 PM »
« edited: October 22, 2010, 02:28:40 PM by pbrower2a »


who fails to recognize that people who disagree with him are not traitors.



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No, he is just another narcissistic right-wing pseudo-intellectual with a huge mean streak who has sold out for filthy lucre, a political cutthroat who would have never fit in among the Founding Fathers who were too civilized for such stuff.  Can you imagine him sacrificing his luxuries for a principle?


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As if it had authority? I have far more use for the Federalist Papers than I have for off-the-cuff, unpolished mean-spirited rhetoric.  


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Have you ever recognized that the liberal Democrats  want to preserve what is best in America and change what is faulty for something better? The problem with the right-wing (regrettably, conservatism with its conscience and caution is largely dormant if not dead)
 Republicans is that they want to preserve and promote what is worst in America -- a system that works only for a few.

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Facts and knowledge are the short suit of the Hard Right. You right-wingers are the sorts who would establish the sort of economic order that begs for revolutionary change from the Extreme Left.
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 01:27:23 PM »

My cited material in green and my new material in orange.


who fails to recognize that people who disagree with him are not traitors.

Exactly which points do you feel Savage is doing this with? I want specific examples.

I don't need to. The consensus is that he is a very nasty and intolerant fellow.


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No, he is just another narcissistic right-wing pseudo-intellectual with a huge mean streak who has sold out for filthy lucre, a political cutthroat who would have never fit in among the Founding Fathers who were too civilized for such stuff.  Can you imagine him sacrificing his luxuries for a principle?[/quote]


Savage is an ego maniac and has a mean streak agreed. Personally I really don't like that about him. I can take it with a grain of salt, partly because I grew up in NY and he is far from unique with those qualities. Savage doesn't need to sacrifice luxury because he already is putting his very life in danger for doing a job that he does not need to do. He is very wealthy with out radio. Your point about our founders. How do you know they were not arrogant or humble? We have no idea. Do we? Michael's personality takes nothing away from the fact that he is shining a bright light on corruption and on our gangster regime for all to consume. He also exposes the evils of Liberalism to many who even like his style. So your come backs are based on emotion and not fact, hence you loose the debate on all counts.
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I have heard enough from his ilk, and listening to more would be like seeking out the North Korean News Agency to see if it hasn't quit giving effusive praise to a mad leader.

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How long would you date a sadist -- unless you are a masochist?

I think that you are the one who needs to grow up... unless you have gone senile.



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You are a Socialist and that leads to shackles, not freedom. We the majority have sacrificed many lives to protect not just our freedom but many others as well and will never give in to you radical Socialists. And WRONG! It doesn't 'Only work for a few" You are brainwashed and clueless to how this Republic works. You listen to propaganda and believe it. Stop spreading the lies of the left because you are hurting the US![/quote]

No, it is you right-wingers who, if your perverse dreams of a plutocratic theocracy with severe repression come to pass, would create the scenario that leads to revolution from a would-be Lenin, Mao, or Castro.


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Facts and knowledge are the short suit of the Hard Right.


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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2010, 01:31:59 PM »

I am about to put a new troll on the Ignore list. Anyone who has this tagline


Liberalism is the enemy of freedom and must be exposed and destroyed at all costs.

probably has a fetish for brown clothing, twisted crosses,  and stiff-arm salutes.

The diametric opposite of liberalism is... fascism.

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2010, 09:18:22 AM »
« Edited: November 16, 2010, 10:11:54 PM by pbrower2a »

I am about to put a new troll on the Ignore list. Anyone who has this tagline


Liberalism is the enemy of freedom and must be exposed and destroyed at all costs.

probably has a fetish for brown clothing, twisted crosses,  and stiff-arm salutes.

The diametric opposite of liberalism is... fascism.



LOL

Liberalism and fascism are interchangable.

All that liberalism and fascism have in common is a shared disdain for Communism.

Otherwise:

1. Liberalism is internationalist. It recognizes that people can have much in common despite cultural and religious differences. Fascism is invariably chauvinist in its nationalism, often denying the humanity of people of other nations even when the differences are slight.

An American, Indian, Indonesian, or Japanese liberal believe in much the same on how to organize society despite sharp contrasts of culture but would recognize the differences between them as harmless. American, Indian, Indonesian, and Japanese fascists would show solidarity with each other only as partners in crime.  Even where cultural differences are slight, fascists can turn on each other quickly. Nazis quickly suppressed any Polish fascists during World War II and would have exterminated any Yiddish-speaking Jewish fascists.
 
2. Liberalism recognizes the need for restraint on the means of repression. Fascists recognize no such need.

3. Liberalism recognizes the need for constitutional government as opposed to despotism or oligarchy. Fascism is either despotism or oligarchy.

4. Liberals stand for religious liberty. Fascism subordinates religion to the Nation.

5. Liberalism has pacifism as an ideal. Fascism is extreme in its militarism.  Liberal states never attack each other, but fascist states can turn on each other.

6. Liberalism recognizes the right of workers to organize for higher wages and better working conditions. Fascism ordinarily uses the power of the State to degrade working people on behalf of employers.

7. Liberalism recognizes the need for a free press. Fascism destroys all independence in the media.

8. Liberalism is the political result of centuries of rational inquiry and pragmatic conduct. Fascism is the subordination of reason to the Will of the Leader.

9. Liberals believe in largely-free markets with consumer choice. Fascism replaces economic  competition with command.

    

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