GOP already backing away from campaign promises.....

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIX_0nMlIBU

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I'm just waiting for Senator Kyl and/or Speaker Boehner to turn to the President at a meeting and say, "We won."

In what world Kyl won? The Democrats still control the Senate.

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I'm just waiting for Senator Kyl and/or Speaker Boehner to turn to the President at a meeting and say, "We won."

In what world Kyl won? The Democrats still control the Senate.

He obviously didn't win but it would be in response to a greater GOP presence in Congress. They'll have some "bipartisan" event soon, the President will act like he still runs everything and Kyl could simply make a general comment (could even be referring to the House). He'd be saying it since the great uniter we have as President decided to say it to him in early 2009. I'm sure Boehner will be kind enough to let Kyl say it on his behalf if Obama starts complaining about something in the House.

Apparently you're confused. Bush isn't president anymore.

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Apparently you're confused. Bush isn't president anymore.

Right because, despite the example I cited, this President doesn't act like he's entitled to everything he wants.

"We won." Really changed Washington, Mr. President!
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Are you kind enough to remind us the circumstances under which he uttered that phrase?

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Are you kind enough to remind us the circumstances under which he uttered that phrase?

He said it during negotiations with Congressional Republicans after Republicans noted their concern with spending. Great negotiating.

Well, as much as it may surprise you the minority can't FORCE their policies on the majority. Especially when they have settled on a strategy of "No Compromise".

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Are you kind enough to remind us the circumstances under which he uttered that phrase?

He said it during negotiations with Congressional Republicans after Republicans noted their concern with spending. Great negotiating.

Well, as much as it may surprise you the minority can't FORCE their policies on the majority. Especially when they have settled on a strategy of "No Compromise".

Who said anything about forcing policies on anyone? You don't say "I won" after campaigning on changing politics and all of his other nonsense at negotiations.

You can if the losing side behaves as if they own the place.

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Are you kind enough to remind us the circumstances under which he uttered that phrase?

He said it during negotiations with Congressional Republicans after Republicans noted their concern with spending. Great negotiating.

Well, as much as it may surprise you the minority can't FORCE their policies on the majority. Especially when they have settled on a strategy of "No Compromise".

Who said anything about forcing policies on anyone? You don't say "I won" after campaigning on changing politics and all of his other nonsense at negotiations.

You can if the losing side behaves as if they own the place.

Right, px.    They were acting like they owned the place by voicing their concerns over spending. Thanks for your daily dose of hackery.

Where were those concerns during the Bush years? They remembered them when a Democrat was in the White House as a fig-leaf for their obstruction.

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Where were those concerns during the Bush years? They remembered them when a Democrat was in the White House as a fig-leaf for their obstruction.

Hey, it happens on both sides and I don't like when either party does it. However, it was Obama that trumpeted that nonsense that he "transcends politics."

Because he was naive enough to believe that Republicans would negotiate in good faith.

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Px, take a note from Badger: when he goes extreme partisan hack, he at least makes it more amusing. 

Yeah, he is so extremely hackish that you don't even bother to answer.

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Px, take a note from Badger: when he goes extreme partisan hack, he at least makes it more amusing. 

Yeah, he is so extremely hackish that you don't even bother to answer.

I didn't see a question.

Obama's comment, especially as Mr. "Transcends Politics," was inappropriate and not a form of negotiation. But that's ok. That attitude helped the GOP pick up over sixty House seats and six Senate seats even as we were "on the verge of extinction." Thanks, Mr. President. Let's do it again some time.

Really? And silly me thought that unemployment was the main cause for Democratic losses.

Then again we shouldn't discount the massive effect of the Van Johnson controversy and the Sestak job offer.

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Disagree! The PX-KP rows are what popcorn (or gin ) was invented for! Carry on, gladiators, as I sip wine from my luxery box seat!

I just try to do my best and fill the void left by Marokai.

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Tell me why his approval rating was 44% in midterm exit polls, px. Was it because people actually really liked him and just had this impulse to say otherwise?

Your knee jerk tendency to spout DNC talking points as if Tim Kaine was handing you your check every other week aside, everyone can admit that Obama lost the trust of the voters in 2010. He rammed an unpopular healthcare overhaul through Congress. People don't like the bill and don't like the way it was passed. It's time to open your eyes and admit that he paid a price for his style in the first two years of his term.

LOL! Do you know "kid" that Obama is by far the most popular politician in Washington? People certainly trust and like him much more than Bhoener and McConnell. Read a poll if you don't believe me.

And if unemployment was at 7% and falling nobody would have cared even if they passed HCR in the middle of the night with exotic dancers on the floor of the House celebrating its passage.
You talk about talking points but you seem to wallow in them. How it was "rammed" through congress? After six months of negotiations and with a 3/5ths majority in the Senate?

Maybe you prefer the ...bipartisan way through which the Bush tax cuts passed: with 50 votes and Cheney casting the tie-breaker. But then it was apparently a triumph of the will of the people. While Dems passing a bill with 60 votes was an "unprecedented power grab". 

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LOL! Do you know "kid" that Obama is by far the most popular politician in Washington? People certainly trust and like him much more than Bhoener and McConnell. Read a poll if you don't believe me.

Wow. You're going to cite approval polls of people like Boehner and McConnell? You'd be one of the people complaining that polls about Pelosi and Reid don't matter and that would be correct. National polls gauging popularity of figures that aren't elected nationally don't really matter because people hardly know anything about them when compared to the President.

I never said that Pelosi's favorables didn't matter. I just said that they were at about the same level as Bhoener's and McConnell's, so you can't say that Democrats lost the House because of her (un)popularity.
And the fact that they aren't as well known as Obama doesn't change the fact that their unfavorables are twice their favorables. Obviously even those who know them like Obama more.

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No, objective and empiric after watching politics for a long time. Voters want results and don't care how government achieves them.

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Yeah, rushed through after five months of negotiations with Republicans.

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Well, duh! Who says no when they give him free money?

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Ha! You can't cite a single piece of evidence that backs up your claim besides "I've watching politics for a long time." Ok. That's going to be my excuse for backing up wild claims, too. You're taking a policy that you support but is unpopular here and saying that a totally independent issue would have made it popular. Ridiculous!

Well how about that: voters approved of Bush for "keeping America safe" even though he achieved(?) it through torture, illegal wiretapping and curtailing civil liberties.

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Yeah, Republicans couldn't be bought off. They were already sold to insurance companies.
Anyway, if you bothered to read anything else besides RedState then you would know that the Louisiana and Nebraska provisions were actually sound policy decisions. The Nebraska provision was expanded to the entire country after all.

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Thank you!