Alternate Careers

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I was tempted to do one with JFK Jr coming back as Trump's Vice President but I decided that might be, in its own way, too real.

John F. Kennedy Jr.

Mayor of New York City: January 1, 2002 - December 31, 2009
Governor of New York: January 1, 2011 - January 13, 2017
President of the United States: January 20, 2017 -

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Okay so this is a bit more extensive than I meant it to be when I started this. Any parallels?


Neil Kinnock
MP for Islwyn 1970-
Shadow Secretary of State for Education and Science 1979-1983
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport 1983-1987
Shadow Secretary of State for Trade and Industry 1987-1992
Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer 1992-1997
Chancellor of the Exchequer 1997-2005
Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs 2005-2010
Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs 2010-2010
Leader of the Labour Party 2010-
Leader of the Opposition 2010-2015
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom 2015-

Basically, Kinnock doesn't become Labour leader in '83 like in OTL, and Thatcher wins in '87 and gets forced out and is replaced by Major who goes on to win in '92 like in OTL. Kinnock runs for the Leadership a couple of times and gets shifted around the Shadow Cabinet and eventually becomes Shadow Chancellor. He becomes Chancellor upon Labour's victory in '97 like in OTL. He is popular for his handling of the economy. Jack Straw leaves the Foreign Office a year earlier than OTL and Kinnock is seen as being the only one with the stature to replace him, so he moves to the Foreign Office, where he begins cleaning up the mess in Iraq. He is retained by his replacement as Chancellor, Gordon Brown, in 2007, but Labour loses in 2010 like in OTL. Despite him starting to think about retirement, he is persuading to stand for leadership and wins, despite an unexpectedly tough challenge from Jeremy Corbyn, who stands five years earlier than OTL. He goes on to lead the Labour Party to victory in 2015 despite some concerns about his age, as he is well-regarded for his experience and well-liked despite some occasional gaffes. The Brexit Referendum doesn't happen, he handles COVID well, and the economy is generally strong despite the pandemic. The election is delayed until 2021 under an act of Parliament and he leads Labour to a landslide victory. He is currently in his second term as Prime Minister and is seen as likely to stand down before the next general election.

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Mitch Daniels:

White House Director of Political and Intergovernmental Affairs 1985-1987
U.S. Senator from Indiana 1989-1999
U.S. Secretary of the Treasury 2001-2005
President of the United States 2009-2017

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Pierre Salinger
White House Press Secretary (1961-1964)
U.S. Senator from California (1964-1964)
President of the United States (1993-2001)

Watch the first few minutes of this interview for context. It really is...something.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?67372-1/ps-memoir

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Hubert Horatio Humphrey

Mayor of Minneapolis 1945-1948
U.S. Senator from Minnesota 1949-1964
Senate Majority Whip 1961-1964
Vice President of the United States 1965-1969
U.S. Senator from Minnesota 1971-1984
Deputy President pro Tempore of the U.S. Senate 1977-1981
Senate Minority Leader 1981-1983
Senate Majority Leader 1983-1984
President of the United States 1985-1993

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Mark Warner
Governor of Virginia 2002-2006
U.S. Senator from Virginia 2009-2014
Governor of Virginia 2014-2017
Vice President of the United States 2017-2025
President of the United States 2025-2033

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George H.W. Bush
U.S. Representative from Texas 1967-1971
U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations 1971-1973
Chairman of the Republican National Committee 1973-1974
Chief of the U.S. Liaison Office to the People's Republic of China 1974-1975
Director of Central Intelligence 1976-1977
1980 Republican Presidential Candidate
Vice President of the United States 1981-1989
President of the United States 1989-1993

Bill Clinton
Attorney General of Arkansas 1977-1979
Governor of Arkansas 1979-1981
Governor of Arkansas 1983-1992
President of the United States 1993-2001
First Gentleman of the United States 2005-2009
First Gentleman of the United States 2013-2017

George W. Bush
Governor of Texas 1995-2000
President of the United States 2001-2005

Hillary Clinton
First Lady of Arkansas 1979-1981
First Lady of Arkansas 1983-1992
First Lady of the United States 1993-2001
U.S. Senator from New York 2001-2005
President of the United States 2005-2009
President of the United States 2013-2017

Jeb Bush
Secretary of Commerce of Florida 1987-1988
Governor of Florida 1999-2007
President of the United States 2009-2013

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Prescott Bush (1895-1978)

U.S. Representative: January 3, 1939-January 3, 1943
-Elected 1938 (BY 5.7%)
-Re-Elected 1940 (BY 1.5%)
-Retired
Governor of Connecticut: January 8, 1943-January 7, 1951
-Elected 1942 (BY 5.1%)
-Re-Elected 1944 (BY 4.0%)
-Re-Elected 1946 (BY 11.7%)
-Re-Elected 1948 (BY 6.2%)
-Retired
Vice President: January 20, 1953-January 20, 1961
-Elected 1952 (BY 452-79)
-Re-Elected 1956 (BY 500-31)
-Retired

George HW Bush (1924-2021)

U.S. Representative: January 3, 1957-July 11, 1961
-Elected 1956 (BY 16.5%)
-Re-Elected 1958 (BY 7.1%)
-Resigned
U.S. Senator: July 13, 1961-February 23, 1974
-Elected 1961 (s) (BY 5.1%)
-Re-Elected 1966 (BY 13.3%)
-Re-Elected 1972 (BY 10.3%)
-Resigned
Secretary of Defense: February 23, 1974-January 20, 1977
-Appointed 1974
-Resigned
Vice President: January 20, 1981-April 1, 1981
-Elected 1980 (BY 434-104)
-Assumed Presidency
President: April 1, 1981-January 20, 1989
-Assumed Office
-Re-Elected 1984 (BY 535-3)
-Term-Limited

Nancy Bush Ellis (1926-)

Administrator of the EPA: December 2, 1970-January 20, 1977

Jonathan Bush (1931-)

U.S. Representative: November 10, 1961-January 3, 1963
-Elected 1961 (s) (BY 7.5%)
-Lost Re-Election (BY 0.5%)
U.S. Representative: January 3, 1967-January 3, 1971
-Elected 1966 (BY 5.4%)
-Re-Elected 1968 (BY 8.0%)
-Retired
NixonCare Rollout Czar: May 12, 1973-December 31, 1973
-Appointed 1973
-Position Abolished

George W. Bush (1946-)

State Senator: January 14, 1977-January 1, 1979
-Elected 1976 (BY 24.3%)
-Resigned
U.S. Representative: January 3, 1979-January 3, 1991
--Party Whip: 1985-1989
-Elected 1978 (BY 0.9%)
-Re-Elected 1980 (BY 8.7%)
-Re-Elected 1982 (BY 1.5%)
-Re-Elected 1984 (BY 10.9%)
-Re-Elected 1986 (BY 3.4%)
-Re-Elected 1988 (BY 6.9%
-Retired
Lieutenant Governor of Texas: January 15, 1991-January 17, 1995
-Elected 1990 (BY 14.5%)
-Retired
Governor of Texas: January 17, 1995-December 22, 2004
-Elected 1994 (BY 0.2%)
-Re-Elected 1998 (BY 7.0%)
-Re-Elected 2002 (BY 19.9%)
-Resigned
President: January 20, 2005-January 20, 2009
-Elected 2004 (BY 279-259)
-Lost Re-Election (BY 428-110)

Jeb Bush (1953-)
Governor of Florida: January 3, 1983-January 7, 1991
-Elected 1982 (BY 0.3%)
-Re-Elected 1986 (BY 0.7%)
Lieutenant Governor: January 7, 1991-January 6, 1995
-Elected 1990 (BY 3.0%)
Governor of Florida: January 6, 1995-January 2, 2007
-Elected 1994 (BY 1.1%)
-Re-Elected 1998 (BY 11.1%)
-Re-Elected 2002 (BY 13.0%)
U.N. Ambassador: January 25, 2007-January 20, 2009
-Appointed 2007
-Resigned
Governor of Florida: January 4, 2011-January 8, 2019
-Elected 2010 (BY 19.9%)
-Re-Elected 2014 (BY 13.2%)
-Lost Re-Election (BY <0.1%)
President: January 20, 2021-Present
-Elected 2020 (270-268)

You can only go two terms at a time as Florida Governor. This is so great I didn't want something small like that to ruin it.

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Evan Bayh
Secretary of State of Indiana 1986-1989
Governor of Indiana 1989-1997
U.S. Senator from Indiana 1999-2011
Governor of Indiana 2013-2017
President of the United States 2017-2025

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Terry McAuliffe
Chair of the Democratic National Committee 2001-2005
Governor of Virginia 2014-2018
Governor of Virginia 2022-

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Lowell Weicker
Connecticut State Representative 1963-1969
First Selectman of Greenwich, CT 1964-1968
U.S. Representative from Connecticut 1969-1971
U.S. Senator from Connecticut 1971-1989
Governor of Connecticut 1991-1999
U.S. Senator from Connecticut 2007-2013

Bob Kerrey
Governor of Nebraska 1983-1987
U.S. Senator from Nebraska 1989-2001
Mayor of New York City 2006-2013

Ed Rendell
Philadelphia District Attorney 1978-1986
Mayor of Philadelphia 1992-2000
Governor of Pennsylvania 2003-2011
Mayor of New York City 2014-2021

Bill Clinton
Attorney General of Arkansas 1977-1979
Governor of Arkansas 1979-1981
Governor of Arkansas 1983-1992
President of the United States 1993-2001
U.S. Senator from New York 2009-2010
First Gentleman of the United States 2017-

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Jerry Brown
Secretary of State of California 1971-1975
Governor of California 1975-1983
U.S. Senator from California 1983-1989
President of the United States 1989-1993
Chair of the California Democratic Party 1995-1997
Mayor of Oakland 1999-2007
Attorney General of California 2007-2011
Governor of California 2011-2019
President of the United States 2021-

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Arnold Schwarzenegger
Chairman of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports 1990-1993
Governor of California 2003-2011
U.S. Ambassador to Russia 2013-2017

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Charlie Crist
Florida State Senator 1992-1998
Education Commissioner of Florida 2001-2003
Attorney General of Florida 2003-2007
Governor of Florida 2007-2011
U.S. Representative from Florida 2017-2027
Governor of Florida 2027-

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Donald Trump
President of the United States 2017-2025

Evan Bayh
Secretary of State of Indiana 1986-1989
Governor of Indiana 1989-1997
U.S. Senator from Indiana 1999-2011
Governor of Indiana 2029-

Al Franken
U.S. Senator from Minnesota 2009-2018
U.S. Senator from New York 2025-

Kirsten Gillibrand
U.S. Representative from New York 2007-2009
U.S. Senator from New York 2009-2025
2024 Democratic Presidential Nominee
Governor of New York 2027-

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Jack Ciattarelli
Member of the New Jersey General Assembly 2011-2018
Governor of New Jersey 2022-2026

Steve Sweeney
Member of the New Jersey State Senate 2002-2022
New Jersey State Senate President 2010-2022
2021 Democratic New Jersey Governor Nominee

Phil Murphy
Finance Chair of the Democratic National Committee 2006-2009
U.S. Ambassador to Germany 2009-2013
Governor of New Jersey 2018-2022
Governor of New Jersey 2026-

Terry McAuliffe
Chair of the Democratic National Committee 2001-2005
Governor of Virginia 2014-2018
Governor of Virginia 2022-2026

Ralph Northam
Member of the Virginia State Senate 2008-2014
Lieutenant Governor of Virginia 2014-2018
Governor of Virginia 2018-2022
Governor of Virginia 2026-

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Kamala Harris
District Attorney of San Francisco 2004-2011
Attorney General of California 2011-2017
U.S. Senator from California 2017-

Tony Knowles
Mayor of Anchorage 1982-1987
Governor of Alaska 1994-2002
U.S. Senator from Alaska 2023-

Bill Walker
Mayor of Valdez 1979-1980
Governor of Alaska 2014-2018
Governor of Alaska 2022-2026
U.S. Senator from Alaska 2027-

Mark Begich
Member of the Anchorage Assembly 1988-1998
Mayor of Anchorage 2003-2009
U.S. Senator from Alaska 2009-2015
Governor of Alaska 2026-

Al Gross
U.S. Representative from Alaska 2023-

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Jon Tester
Member of the Montana State Senate 1999-2007
President of the Montana State Senate 2005-2007
U.S. Senator from Montana 2007-2025
U.S. Senator from Montana 2027-

Steve Bullock
Attorney General of Montana 2009-2013
Governor of Montana 2013-2021
Governor of Montana 2029-

Elizabeth Warren
Chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel 2008-2010
Special Advisor for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau 2010-2011
U.S. Senator from Massachusetts 2013-
2020 Democratic Presidential Nominee

Julian Castro
Member of the San Antonio City Council 2001-2005
Mayor of San Antonio 2009-2014
U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development 2014-2017
2020 Democratic Presidential Candidate
2020 Democratic Vice-Presidential Nominee

Eric Holder
Judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia 1988-1993
U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia 1993-1997
U.S. Deputy Attorney General 1997-2001
U.S. Attorney General 2009-2015
2020 Democratic Vice-Presidential Shortlist

Conor Lamb
U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania 2018-2029
U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania 2029-

Sherrod Brown
Member of the Ohio House of Representatives 1975-1982
Secretary of State of Ohio 1983-1991
U.S. Representative from Ohio 1993-2007
U.S. Senator from Ohio 2007-
2020 Democratic Vice-Presidential Shortlist

Tom Malinowski
Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor 2014-2017
U.S. Representative from New Jersey 2019-2023
U.S. Representative from New Jersey 2027-

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Andy Beshear
Attorney General of Kentucky 2016-2019
Governor of Kentucky 2019-2023
Governor of Kentucky 2027-

Phil Scott
Member of the Vermont State Senate 2001-2011
Lieutenant Governor of Vermont 2011-2017
Governor of Vermont 2017-2023
Governor of Vermont 2025-2027

Tom Udall
Attorney General of New Mexico 1991-1999
U.S. Representative from New Mexico 1999-2009
U.S. Senator from New Mexico 2009-2021
Governor of New Mexico 2027-

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A Different Kennedy Dynasty:

John F. Kennedy (1917-1982)
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives: January 3rd, 1947-January 3rd, 1953
United States Senator from Massachusetts: January 3rd, 1953-January 3rd, 1965
Democratic Nominee for President in 1960 (Lost to VP Richard Nixon)

Edward M. "Ted" Kennedy (1932-2009)
United States Senator from Massachusetts: January 3rd, 1965-December 1st, 1984
39th President of the United States: January 20th, 1985-January 20th, 1993

John F. Kennedy Jr. (1960-Present)
Governor of New York: January 1st, 2003-November 21st, 2008
43rd President of the United States: January 20th, 2009-January 20th, 2017

Presidents of the United States of America Since 1961:
35. Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican): 1961-1969
36. Edmund Muskie / Terry Sanford (Democratic): 1969-1977
37. Terry Sanford / Evan Bayh (Democratic): 1977-1981
38. Ronald Reagan / Richard Schweiker (Republican): 1981-1985
39. Ted Kennedy / Sam Nunn (Democratic): 1985-1993
40. George Bush / Jack Kemp (Republican): 1993-2001
41. Dick Gephardt / Bob Graham (Democratic): 2001-2005
42. Fred Thompson / Tom Ridge (Republican): 2005-2009
43. John F. Kennedy Jr. / Barack Obama (Democratic): 2009-2017
44. Barack Obama / Roy Cooper (Democratic): 2017-Incumbent

I think you mean Birch Bayh, Evan was his son. Otherwise looks very interesting!

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Jeb Bush

Governor of Florida: January 6, 1983-January 4, 2007
UN Ambassador: January 4, 2007-January 20, 2009
Governor of Florida: January 7, 2011-January 20, 2017
President: January 20, 2017-January 20, 2021

You can only do two consecutive terms, but you can go back after sitting out a term.

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John Bel Edwards
Member of the Louisiana House of Representatives 2008-2015
Minority Leader of the Louisiana House of Representatives 2012-2015
Governor of Louisiana 2016-2024
Governor of Louisiana 2028-

Ed Markey
Member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives 1973-1976
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Massachusetts 1976-2013
U.S. Senator from Massachusetts 2013-2021

Joe Kennedy III
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Massachusetts 2013-2021
U.S. Senator from Massachusetts 2021-

Byron Dorgan
Tax Commissioner of North Dakota 1969-1981
U.S. Representative from North Dakota 1981-1992
U.S. Senator from North Dakota 1992-2011
U.S. Senator from North Dakota 2029-

Heidi Heitkamp
Tax Commissioner of North Dakota 1986-1992
Attorney General of North Dakota 1992-2000
U.S. Senator from North Dakota 2013-2019
Governor of North Dakota 2029-

Claire McCaskill
Member of the Missouri House of Representatives 1983-1988
Prosecutor of Jackson County 1993-1998
Auditor of Missouri 1999-2007
U.S. Senator from Missouri 2007-2019
Governor of Missouri 2029-

Bill Nelson
Member of the Florida House of Representatives 1972-1978
U.S. Representative from Florida 1979-1991
Treasurer, Insurance Commissioner, and Fire Marshal of Florida 1995-2001
U.S. Senator from Florida 2001-2019
U.S. Senator from Florida 2029-

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Byron Dorgan
Tax Commissioner of North Dakota 1969-1981
U.S. Representative from North Dakota 1981-1992
U.S. Senator from North Dakota 1992-2011
U.S. Senator from North Dakota 2029-

Bill Nelson
Member of the Florida House of Representatives 1972-1978
U.S. Representative from Florida 1979-1991
Treasurer, Insurance Commissioner, and Fire Marshal of Florida 1995-2001
U.S. Senator from Florida 2001-2019
U.S. Senator from Florida 2029-

Woke 86-year-old freshman senators Byron Dorgan and Bill Nelson.

They'd be younger than Grassley! I love when retreads resurface.

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Eric Greitens
Governor of Missouri 2017-2018
U.S. Senator from Missouri 2023-2029

Jason Kander
Member of the Missouri House of Representatives 2009-2013
Missouri Secretary of State 2013-2017
U.S. Senator from Missouri 2029-

Cheri Beasley
Associate Justice of the North Carolina Supreme Court 2012-2019
Chief Justice of the North Carolina Supreme Court 2019-2020
U.S. Senator from North Carolina 2027-

Jeff Jackson
Member of the North Carolina State Senate 2014-2022
U.S. Representative from North Carolina 2023-2029
U.S. Senator from North Carolina 2029-

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Terry Sanford
Member of the North Carolina State Senate 1953-1955
Governor of North Carolina 1961-1965
President of Duke University 1970-1985
U.S. Senator from North Carolina 1986-1999

Jim Hunt
Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina 1973-1977
Governor of North Carolina 1977-1985
U.S. Senator from North Carolina 1985-1989
President of the United States 1989-1997
Governor of North Carolina 2001-2009
U.S. Secretary of Education 2009-2010
U.S. Senator from North Carolina 2011-