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Del Tachi
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« on: April 02, 2017, 03:19:04 PM »
« edited: April 02, 2017, 03:23:31 PM by Del Tachi »

Easy, post an alternate bio of a RL politico.

I'll go first with one for Bill and Hillary Clinton.

POD:  Bill Clinton loses the Democratic nomination to Tom Harkin, who then goes on to defeat George H.W. Bush to be elected President in 1992

William Jefferson Clinton (b. 1946)
  • Attorney General of Arkansas; 1979-1981
  • Governor of Arkansas; 1981-1983, 1983-1993
  • Chairman, Democratic National Committee; 1993-1999
  • 2000:  Wins the Democratic nomination for President, but loses the election to George W. Bush
  • United States Senator for Arkansas; 2003-2009
  • 2008:  Runs for President, but loses the nomination to Barack Obama
  • United States Secretary of State under President Barack Obama; 2009-2013
  • 2016: Wins the Democratic nomination for President once again, but loses the election to Marco Rubio.  Retires from politics.

Hillary Rodham Clinton (b. 1947)
  • First Lady of Arkansas; 1981-1983, 1983-1993
  • Director of the Board, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.; 1994-1998
  • Chairperson, Financial Stability Oversight Board, United States Department of Treasury; 2009-2012
  • United States Ambassador to the United Nations; 2013-2017
  • Mayor of New York City; 2018-2026
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2017, 11:48:17 PM »

Julius Klein (b. 1901), Republican-Illinois (Some quick info about the man for those who don't know who he is)
- U.S. Spy during WW1 in Germany
- Prominent Journalist in Chicago
- Worked as a lobbyist and also helped win $30 million mark for families of Jews who died under Nazi rule
- Served in WW2; Remembered as war hero who saved the lives of his fellow soldiers in New Caledonia (member of the U.S. Army/IL Natl Guard and became a General)
- Prominent American Jew who would later become the National Commander of the Jewish War Veterans of the United States of America.
- Strong supporter of U.S. - Israel Relations.

Now, for the alternate career:
- U.S. Senator, Illinois: 1955-1969 * Resigns to become U.S. Secretary of the Army
- Illinois Chairman for Richard Nixon's Presidential Campaign: 1967-1968
- United States Secretary of the Army: 1969-1973
- United States Ambassador to the State of Israel: 1973-1977
- National Commander of the Jewish War Veterans of the United States of America: 1977-1984 * Dies

Senate Electoral History:
- 1954 Election: 49% to 48% W over Sen. Paul Douglas, D-IL
- 1960 Election: 58% to 39% W over Rep. George E. Shipley, D-IL
- 1966 Election: 55% to 43% W over IL AG William G. Clark, D-IL
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2017, 12:06:07 AM »

Clare Boothe Luce (b. 1903), Republican-Connecticut

Alternate Career:
- U.S. Congresswoman, CT-04: 1943-1947
- U.S. Senator, Connecticut: 1947-1965 * Loses Re-election
- GOP Candidate for President, 1968 (Unsuccessful; loses in primaries to Richard Nixon)
- U.S. Ambassador to the State of Israel: 1969-1973
- U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations: 1973-1977
- Campaign Surrogate for Ronald Reagan's Presidential Campaign: 1979-1980
- Dies in 1987
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Maxwell
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2017, 12:14:21 AM »

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Ollie North, Senator from Virginia
Platoon Commander during Vietnam
National Security Council, 1981-1986
Marine Corps Comission, 1986-1990
U.S. Senator, Virginia: 1995-2001
Presidential Candidate: 2000
Lost Re-election in 2000


1994 Senate Election - 44% North, 43.9% Robb
2000 Republican Primaries - Rose to the top of the polls in July through September, crashed about October, Dropped out in November.
2000 Senate Election - 52% Mark Warner, 47% Ollie North
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2017, 12:06:06 PM »

Alternate Careers:

Willard "Mitt" Romney: Senator from Massachusetts, Vice-President of the United States

Senator (R-MA): 1995-2001
Vice President of the United States: 2001-2009
Republican Nominee for President: 2008

Electoral History:

1994: MA Senate Race Mitt Romney: 50.1% Ted Kennedy:
 48.8%


2000: MA Senate Race Mitt Romney: 50.0% John Kerry:
 48.9%


2000: Presidential Election George W. Bush/Mitt Romney: 272 (48.1%) Al Gore/Joe Lieberman: 266 (48.0%)

2004: Presidential Election George W. Bush/Mitt Romney: 339 (52.6%) Howard Dean/Richard Gephardt: 199 (45.1%)

2008: Presidential Election Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh: 351 (51.8%) Mitt Romney/Rick Perry: 187 (46.5%)
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2017, 12:36:24 PM »

Paul Wellstone

1982-1990: Minnesota State Auditor
1990-2002: U.S. Senator (DFL, MN)
2003-2008: Governor of Minnesota (DFL, MN)
2009-2016: POTUS (DFL, MN)
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2017, 12:46:43 PM »
« Edited: April 05, 2017, 12:55:08 PM by Peebs »

Not sure if RL actors count, but...
POD: Scott Bakula never pursues acting, instead staying in law.
Scott Bakula (b. 1954)
Mayor of St. Louis: 1989-2001
Senator from Missouri: 2001-2021
2002 def. Jim Talent (51%-48%)
2006 def. Roy Blunt (50%-47%)
2012 def. Todd Akin (55%-39%)
2018 def. Josh Hawley (52%-45%)
49th Vice President of the United States under Sherrod Brown: 2021-2023
2020: Sherrod Brown/Scott Bakula def. Donald Trump/Mike Pence (336-202, 51%-45%)
47th President of the United States: 2023-2033
2023 asc. Sherrod Brown (assassinated by lone gunman on August 8, 2023)
2024 def. Scott Bakula/Julian Castro def. Mike Pence/Nikki Haley (434-104, 55%-42%)
2028 def. Scott Bakula/Julian Castro def. Nikki Haley/Congressman from Ohio elected in 2022 (455-83, 58%-38%)
Dies June 15, 2034, aged 79.
Perhaps a bit much of a Dem wank, but still.
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Maxwell
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2017, 10:05:31 PM »

Jesse Jackson Jr.
Congressman, 1995-1999
Senator, 1999-2012
Presidential candidate 2008
- 3rd Place in Iowa (31.8% Edwards, 31.2% Clinton, 25.6% Jackson)
- 3rd Place in New Hampshire (49.9% Clinton, 24.3% Edwards, 15.2% Jackson)
- 3rd Place in South Carolina (34.5% Edwards, 29.9% Clinton, 28.1% Jackson)
Dropped Out after South Carolina
Resigned from the Senate following a major corruption scandal

1998 Senate Election - 50% Jackson, 46% Fitzgerald (Dem Hold, following Moseley Braun not running for re-election)
2004 Senate Election - 58% Jackson, 39% Oberweis
2010 Senate Election - 48.9% Jackson, 48.2% Schock
2013 Special Election - 49% Biggert, 47% Foster (R Pick-Up)
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2017, 06:18:04 AM »

Wasn't Schock only 29 in 2010?
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2017, 07:30:47 PM »


Biden was only 29 when he won a Senate seat *shrugs*
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2017, 08:45:09 PM »


Biden was only 29 when he won a Senate seat *shrugs*
Keep in mind, he also turned 30 by the time he was to swear in in January. Schock turned 30 in May 2011, which would mean he'd leave the seat vacant for nearly five months were he to win. Granted, he didn't, but still.
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2017, 09:28:19 PM »


Biden was only 29 when he won a Senate seat *shrugs*
Keep in mind, he also turned 30 by the time he was to swear in in January. Schock turned 30 in May 2011, which would mean he'd leave the seat vacant for nearly five months were he to win. Granted, he didn't, but still.

Probably why Schock didn't end up winning even as Jackson was embroiled in scandal.
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2017, 10:18:06 PM »
« Edited: April 06, 2017, 10:19:40 PM by Maxwell »

Clint Eastwood
Famous Actor, Director, Producer
Mayor Carmel-by-the-Sea - 1986-1988
Governor of California - 1991-1999
President of the United States - 2001-2009

1990 Gubernatorial Election - 50% Eastwood, 44% Feinstine
1994 Gubernatorial Election - 55% Eastwood, 39% Garamendi

2000 Presidential Election - 51% Eastwood/Engler, 45% Gore/Lieberman
2004 Presidential Election - 56% Eastwood/Engler, 41% Dean/Clark

John Engler
Businessman
Governor of Michigan, 1991-2000
Vice President of the United States, 2001-2009
Rumored Presidential Candidate, 2008, declined
Presidential Candidate, 2012 (Dropped out after a poor performance in New Hampshire)
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2017, 10:26:45 PM »

Clint Eastwood
Famous Actor, Director, Producer
Mayor Carmel-by-the-Sea - 1986-1988
Governor of California - 1991-1999
President of the United States - 2001-2009

1990 Gubernatorial Election - 50% Eastwood, 44% Feinstine
1994 Gubernatorial Election - 55% Eastwood, 39% Garamendi

2000 Presidential Election - 51% Eastwood/Engler, 45% Gore/Lieberman
2004 Presidential Election - 56% Eastwood/Engler, 41% Dean/Clark

John Engler
Businessman
Governor of Michigan, 1991-2000
Vice President of the United States, 2001-2009
Rumored Presidential Candidate, 2008, declined
Presidential Candidate, 2012 (Dropped out after a poor performance in New Hampshire)

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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2017, 10:38:18 PM »

George Mitchell
Governor of Maine - 1975-1981
President of the United States - 1981-1989
Secretary-General of the United Nations - 1992-2001

1974 Gubernatorial Election - Mitchell 40%, Longley 37%, Erwin 23%
1978 Gubernatorial Election - Mitchell 74%, Palmer 22%

1980 Presidential Election - Mitchell/Jackson 51%, Reagan/Baker 45%
1984 Presidential Election - Mitchell/Mondale 59%, Baker/Bush 41%

Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson
Senator from Washington - 1953-1981
Vice President of the United States - 1981-1983 (died in office)

Walter Mondale
Senator from Minnesota - 1964-1983
Vice President of the United States - 1983-1989
President of the United States - 1989-1993
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2017, 10:47:23 PM »

Fred Grandy
Actor on "The Love Boat"
Congressman, 1987-1995
Governor, 1995-2003
Senate Candidate 2002 (Lost to Tom Harkin)
Senate Candidate 2008 (Lost to Tom Harkin)

1994 Iowa Gubernatorial Primary - 50.5% Grandy, 49.5% Branstad
1994 Iowa Gubernatorial Race - 52% Grandy, 47% Campbell
1998 Iowa Gubernatorial Race - 51% Grandy, 49% Vilsack
2002 Iowa Senate Election - 52% Harkin, 48% Grandy
2008 Iowa Senate Election - 58% Harkin, 42% Grandy
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2017, 11:26:45 PM »
« Edited: April 10, 2017, 11:30:54 PM by razze »

Barack H. Obama

Member of the Illinois Senate from the 13th District (1997-2001)

Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Illinois's 1st District (2001-2003)

Lieutenant Governor of Illinois (2003-2009)

Governor of Illinois (2009-2016)

President of the United States (2017-)

Notable election results:

Illinois gubernatorial election, 2010
Gov. Barack H. Obama (D, inc) - 52.3% def. State Sen. Kirk Dillard (R) - 46.8%

Illinois gubernatorial election, 2014
Gov. Barack H. Obama (D, inc.) - 53.3% def. Businessman Bruce Rauner (R) - 44.9%

United States Presidential election, 2016
Gov. Barack H. Obama (D-IL)/Ret. Adm. James G. Stavridis (I-MA) - 54.1% def. Businessman Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Ret. Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (D-RI) - 40.0%
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2017, 11:52:37 PM »

Chris Matthews
Candidate for Pennsylvania's 4th - 1974
Congressman from Pennsylvania's 4th - 1979-1981, 1983-1991
Senator from Pennsylvania - 1991-2015
Senate Majority Whip - 2007-2011
Senate Minority Leader - 2011-2015
Speculated candidate for President in 2004 and 2008, did not enter either time
Chairman of the United States Trade Reform Commission - 2017-2018

Kathleen Matthews
Failed candidate for Congress in Maryland's 8th District in 2016
Governor of Maryland - 2019-2025
Secretary of Commerce - 2025-2029
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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2017, 12:54:54 AM »

John Kasich:
Representative of OH-12: 1983-2001
U. S. House Budget Chair: 2001-2005
U. S. House Armed Relations Chair: 1997-2001
Ambassador to Germany: 2001-2005
National Security Advisor: 2007-2010
Governor of Ohio: 2011-2017
President: 2017-


Newt Gingrich:
Representative GA-6: 1975-1997
Speaker of the ahouse: 1995-1997
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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2017, 11:28:13 AM »

President Joseph Kennedy Jnr (1915-1966)

Lt Gov of Massachusetts: 1949-1953
Governor of Massachusetts:1953-1956
Vice President of the United States: 1956-1960
President of United States: 1960-1966*

Ambassador John F. Kennedy (1917-1968)
Professor at Harvard University: 1951-1959
Publisher of George Magazine: 1960-1966
Ambassador to France: 1966-1968*

Robert Kennedy (1925-2001)

Assistant District Attorney for Suffolk County: 1953-1954
District Attorney for Suffolk County: 1954-1960
Deputy Attorney General: 1960-1962
Attorney General: 1962-1964
Governor of Massachusetts: 1965-1969
Candidate for President: 1972
Secretary of State: 1980-1991
 
Edward Kennedy (1932-2013)
Mayor of Boston: 1968-1988
Chairman of the DNC: 1990-1996
Secretary of Labor: 2000-2004

*(1) Killed by Anti-Castro Cuban dissidents in Miami in 1966
*(2) Died following a blood cot whilst curising on the French Riviera



 
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2017, 12:14:51 PM »

This one's related to the Obama one I posted earlier.

Hillary Rodham Clinton

First Lady of Arkansas (1979-1981, 1983-1992)

First Lady of the United States (1993-2001)

U.S. Senator from New York (2001-2008)

President of the United States (2009-2017)

Notable election results:

United States Presidential election, 2008
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY)/Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM) - 53.0% def. Sen. John S. McCain (R-AZ)/Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL) - 44.9%

United States Presidential election, 2012
Pres. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY, inc.)/VP Bill Richardson (D-NM, inc.) - 49.9% def. Fmr. Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 48.3%
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2017, 07:40:41 PM »

Ronald Reagan

- Governor of California: (1967-1972)
- Vice President of the United States: (1973-1981)
- President of the United States: (1981-1985)

Notable Election Results:

Election of 1972:

George Romney (R-MI)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA) -- 55.6% defeated President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Vice President Edmund Muskie -- 43.01%

Election of 1976:

President George Romney (R-MI)/Vice President Ronald Reagan -- 58.8% defeated Senator Edward Kennedy/Senator Robert Byrd -- 40.00%

Election of 1980:

Vice President Ronald Reagan/Congressman Gerald Ford -- 50.01% defeated Senator Henry Jackson/Governor Jimmy Carter: 48.66%

Election of 1984:

Senator Gary Hart/Governor Bill Clinton: 49.57% defeated President Ronald Reagan/Vice President Gerald Ford: 48.77%
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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2017, 07:44:15 PM »

Gary Hart

Senator from California: (1975-1984)
President of the United States: (1985-1993)


Notable Election Results:

Election of 1984:

Senator Gary Hart/Governor Bill Clinton: 49.57% defeated President Ronald Reagan/Vice President Gerald Ford: 48.77%

Election of 1988:

President Gary Hart/Vice President Bill Clinton: 52.01% defeated Former Secy of State George Bush/Senator Dan Quayle: 46.44%
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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2017, 08:57:01 PM »
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Geraldine Anne Ferraro (1935-2019)
  • Member of the US House of Representatives (1979-1998)
  • House Majority Whip (1983-1989)
  • House Majority Leader (1989-1991, 1995-1998)
  • 1996: Rumored candidate for Democratic presidential nomination, declined, endorsed Lee Iacocca
  • House Minority Leader (1991-1995)
  • Secretary of State (1998-2005)
  • 2004: Rumored candidate for Democratic presidential nomination, declined, endorsed Senator Chris Matthews
  • 2008: Rumored candidate for Democratic presidential nomination, declined, endorsed Former Treasury Secretary Luis A. Miranda
  • 2012: Candidate for Democratic presidential nomination, def. Governor and 2008 nominee Rod Blagojevich
  • 2012: Democratic nominee for President of the United States, def. President Oliver North (R), former Governor Rod Blagojevich (C)
  • President of the United States (2013-2017)
  • 2016: Rumored candidate for Democratic presidential nomination, declined, endorsed eventual nominee Mayor Anthony Wiener
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« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2017, 09:41:53 PM »

Dennis John Kucinich (AIP-OH) (1946-)
  • Member of the Cleveland City Council (1969-1973)
  • Member of the US House of Representatives (1973-1982)
  • Governor of Ohio (1983-1988)
  • 1988: American Independent nominee for Vice President, def. Gov. Marshall Coleman (R), Gov. John V. Evans
  • Vice President of the United States (1989-1991)
  • President of the United States (1991-1993, 2017-)
  • 1992: Candidate for American Independent nomination for President of the United States, def. CEO Morry Taylor
  • 1992: American Independent presidential nominee, defeated by Gov. James Blanchard (D), def. Thomas Kean (R)
  • 1996: Rumored candidate for American Independent presidential nomination, declined, endorsed Newton Gingrich
  • 2000: Runored candidate for American Independent presidential nomination, declined, endorsed Gerald Long
  • 2004: Rumored candidate for American Independent presidential nomination, declined, endorsed Gary Kucinich
  • 2006: American Independent nominee for Governor of Ohio, defeated by Jim Jordan
  • 2016: Candidate for American Independent presidential nomination, def. Gov. Paul LePage
  • 2016: American Independent nominee for President of the United States, def. Robert Borski (R), Bill de Blasio (L)
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