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« on: May 06, 2022, 07:08:22 PM »

I hope whoever leaked it gets horrible things happen to them. Leaking a document in order to pressure a justice to change their vote is an attempt at insurrection and should be punishable as such

This reminds me of the blasey Ford letter. That was NEVER supposed to have leaked but it did

This nation managed to go centuries with no decisions leaked and yet the biggest once since roe itself gets leaked?

We have a lot of bad apples in our bureaucracy

What would make this gold is if Matty is one of the many blue avatars who doesn't think January 6 was an insurrection.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2022, 08:01:05 PM »

And stating obvious facts - that as far as we’re all aware, Atty. Gen. Holder has not murdered anybody - is not ‘condescending’ towards you. Do better, and perhaps stop with excessive hyperbole if you don’t want people to correct/‘condescend’ you.

Nobody is arguing that he did. You are the one pretending like Holder's actions are an opinion-based argument. The fact that you're even arguing that "I said he helped corrupt businesses" shows you haven't done your research. Eric Holder's Justice Department directly let criminal fraudsters and launderers get away if they were a part of a big bank. This is a fact.

Eric Holder had the chance to prosecute those responsible criminally,  prosecutors recommended taking it to a criminal trial, and he went for a civil trial instead. In HSBC's case, the fines were almost $2 billion, a drop in the bucket from the $66 billion in revenue they had for 2013.

If we compare the ratio to the median income, the fine HSBC got for money laundering was equivalent to a misdemeanor possession charge. Again - I'm not going to get into a dick-measuring contest about whether murder or mass fraud is worse. But Holder letting big banks off the hook was historically awful, and it's not hyperbolic to say that this qualifies as him allowing bank fraud. It's the truth.

This is the last I will say on the subject. This type of unwarranted condescension is why people don't take you seriously. I thought you had dialed it back, but I guess not.

(This is after he asked "what's the difference" between Eric Holder and a literal murderer)
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2022, 08:12:12 PM »

And stating obvious facts - that as far as we’re all aware, Atty. Gen. Holder has not murdered anybody - is not ‘condescending’ towards you. Do better, and perhaps stop with excessive hyperbole if you don’t want people to correct/‘condescend’ you.

Nobody is arguing that he did. You are the one pretending like Holder's actions are an opinion-based argument. The fact that you're even arguing that "I said he helped corrupt businesses" shows you haven't done your research. Eric Holder's Justice Department directly let criminal fraudsters and launderers get away if they were a part of a big bank. This is a fact.

Eric Holder had the chance to prosecute those responsible criminally,  prosecutors recommended taking it to a criminal trial, and he went for a civil trial instead. In HSBC's case, the fines were almost $2 billion, a drop in the bucket from the $66 billion in revenue they had for 2013.

If we compare the ratio to the median income, the fine HSBC got for money laundering was equivalent to a misdemeanor possession charge. Again - I'm not going to get into a dick-measuring contest about whether murder or mass fraud is worse. But Holder letting big banks off the hook was historically awful, and it's not hyperbolic to say that this qualifies as him allowing bank fraud. It's the truth.

This is the last I will say on the subject. This type of unwarranted condescension is why people don't take you seriously. I thought you had dialed it back, but I guess not.

(This is after he asked "what's the difference" between Eric Holder and a literal murderer)
This post does not belong here.

It's unserious to suggest there's no difference between Eric Holder and somebody who literally killed somebody else. He then called me unserious for pointing out there is in fact a difference between Eric Holder and a murderer because (as far as we know) only one of them is a murderer. So yeah, I think it fits over here pretty well.
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