COVID-19 Megathread 4: Grandma Got Run Over by the Dow Jones

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It is definitely time to start planning to bring back the sports. Good idea, Don, couldn't last much longer like this. Let's just get the new schedules in place.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1246435315444785153?s=19

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

It is definitely time to start planning to bring back the sports. Good idea, Don, couldn't last much longer like this. Let's just get the new schedules in place.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1246435315444785153?s=19

This guy is such an incredibly idiotic fool, unbelievable ...

No. We will not survive much longer without our entertainment. Baseball on June 1. NBA and NHL, release your playoff draws. NFL, tell players to report for Oklahoma drills. We need an end in sight.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

It is definitely time to start planning to bring back the sports. Good idea, Don, couldn't last much longer like this. Let's just get the new schedules in place.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1246435315444785153?s=19

Some people on Atlas are underestimating how much live sports would be a morale boost for tens of millions of people.  Being able to watch sports every day would take my pain level in this from a 9/10 to a 6.5/10 just like that.

Hopefully they can figure out a strategy to bring back sports, even without crowds.

China and we in Europe also survive months without watching sports.

It’s not that hard.

Sports players spread the virus around, as would people in stadiums.

Nobody needs fukking football or baseball this year !

Yes, we do. Otherwise there is little or no reason to even be alive for most of the population. No one will obey any rules beginning in June.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

It is definitely time to start planning to bring back the sports. Good idea, Don, couldn't last much longer like this. Let's just get the new schedules in place.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1246435315444785153?s=19

Some people on Atlas are underestimating how much live sports would be a morale boost for tens of millions of people.  Being able to watch sports every day would take my pain level in this from a 9/10 to a 6.5/10 just like that.

Hopefully they can figure out a strategy to bring back sports, even without crowds.

China and we in Europe also survive months without watching sports.

It’s not that hard.

Sports players spread the virus around, as would people in stadiums.

Nobody needs fukking football or baseball this year !

Yes, we do. Otherwise there is little or no reason to even be alive for most of the population. No one will obey any rules beginning in June.

No offence, but it's kinda pathetic that you can't survive without watching a bunch of guys throw a ball round a field. Everyone has to make sacrifices in this time of crisis and missing this years baseball season or whatever seems like quite a small sacrifice.

We have already made the ultimate sacrifice in this life plus plan to sacrifice two months beyond the greatest month of the year. I think that's plenty fair. After that, I plan to begin returning to my life and vacationing.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

It is definitely time to start planning to bring back the sports. Good idea, Don, couldn't last much longer like this. Let's just get the new schedules in place.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1246435315444785153?s=19

Some people on Atlas are underestimating how much live sports would be a morale boost for tens of millions of people.  Being able to watch sports every day would take my pain level in this from a 9/10 to a 6.5/10 just like that.

Hopefully they can figure out a strategy to bring back sports, even without crowds.

China and we in Europe also survive months without watching sports.

It’s not that hard.

Sports players spread the virus around, as would people in stadiums.

Nobody needs fukking football or baseball this year !

Yes, we do. Otherwise there is little or no reason to even be alive for most of the population. No one will obey any rules beginning in June.

No offence, but it's kinda pathetic that you can't survive without watching a bunch of guys throw a ball round a field. Everyone has to make sacrifices in this time of crisis and missing this years baseball season or whatever seems like quite a small sacrifice.

We have already made the ultimate sacrifice in this life plus plan to sacrifice two months beyond the greatest month of the year. I think that's plenty fair. After that, I plan to begin returning to my life and vacationing.

Well good luck with that, let us know how it goes

I'm lucky to have a beautiful state like West Virginia in such close proximity and still open for business. Jim Justice - one of the six greatest governors in America!

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I know you will disagree, but I'm really thankful we have a president like Trump during this because he will be way more eager to reopen society than the average president would be.

Trump and most of the governors (regardless of party) have almost all been terrible during this crisis.

I don't disagree with that; I will say that it's easy for us to criticize, but a lot harder to make decisions during a crisis.  I disagree with how far we have gone (over 40 governors of both parties have issued arguably unconstitutional lockdowns) and think we could have explored alternative strategies, but this is not an easy time for any of our leaders.

The consensus at this point is that the lockdowns need to end.

Two. Months. That is what they told us is what they need to 'flatten' the curve. Most people have put their faith in that number. If they still do not have it under control, we're done.

Many people are going to get it and die whether we continue into the summer or not. For the summer and beyond, it is up to each individual to assess their own tolerance for mortality risk. From a public policy perspective, the only thing we would be hoping to control is second order deaths from non-COVID causes (availability of healthcare services) and a handful from ventilator supply. And in China, even being put on a ventilator was already a death sentence. Even assuming America is even moderately more successful, I don't think this is going to be a driving factor on the magnitude of deaths.

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There is not even a little bit of doubt in my mind that Hillary Clinton would not have moved the death total so much as an inch. Of course, the right wing media would be hammering her for the same situation all day long, but the situation wouldn't be any different and our confirmed case count might simply be much higher.

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https://twitter.com/natashaldaly/status/1246900371706036228

It always goes back to Carole Baskin...

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And we have lost John Prine

https://twitter.com/NYTObits/status/1247694693024116741?s=19

One of the nine toughest moments of my life.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

NYC vs. the rest of the country (including SF which also has high public transit commuting, dense housing, and a large homeless population and is rather amazingly doing fine) makes me wonder if closing schools might be the single most important intervention?  Japan closed schools very early and while they are having some issues now (2nd wave?), they seem to be doing very well vs. the free world average.  

One relevant point to consider when talking about density is that the highest concentrations in the NY area are not in NYC on a per capita basis, but rather in Westchester and Rockland Counties north of the city, followed by Nassau County, and only then by the Bronx and Queens. Even within the city, the per capita rate doesn't follow density; Manhattan is by far the densest borough but has the lowest per capita rate of the five boroughs and is lower than multiple suburban counties (those mentioned above and also Orange and Suffolk Counties and Bergen County, NJ, which all also have higher per capita rates than Brooklyn).

This all suggests that NYC's severe outbreak relative to other cities is mostly down to bad luck (perhaps some early super-spreader cases) rather than density.

Just to restate this point: a map, cases per capita in the NYC area by county. (I believe the figures are cases per 10,000.) This is as of Sunday.

It's a suburban virus more than anything.

Westchester was the start of the outbreak. The only other cities I know this for sure to be the case we're Philadelphia and Memphis. Michigan, Louisiana and Los Angeles show the opposite pattern. I really don't think there are conclusions on density.

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https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1249004396278616065

It makes sense we have had the worst response to the coronavirus in the world, since we have the misfortune of having a President who is among the worst we have ever had since the founding of our republic.  

Heard the same thing about GWB in 2001, yet we still haven’t had a major terrorist attack since (almost 2 entire decades). Not bad for a ‘stupid’ ‘war criminal’.

Dozens of pretty significant ones though...

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

People can will themselves into the next century just to say they lived in two. I look forward to say three at the ripe young age of 106.

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Protesters in Michigan have Trump flags and Confederate flags. Suffice to say, this protest is really NOT about Whitmer, is it.

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Confederate Flags <-- ? --> Michigan

Michigan has had this side to their culture for decades. The number of confederate flags in the Mid-Atlantic is already astounding, but from my observations pales in comparison to Michigan, which stands alone amongst the Midwestern states in this degree of rural/rebel pride. (Parts of Illinois and Ohio have this tinge but it's nowhere near as widespread.)

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