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Junior Chimp
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« on: June 07, 2009, 05:01:31 PM »

Awful.

I don't see why we the Westerners should appease Muslims, the ones who deny the Holocaust and peddle the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as infallible truth. If people truly knew the truth Muslims would be treated as KKK members of Nazis.

I don't see why we the Westerners should prop up Israel. We have no business intervening in the affairs of foreign nations, as per the Monroe Doctrine; if you were a genuine conservative, as opposed to a far-right reactionist, you'd recognize this and champion the cause of anti-interventionism.

I'm anti-Islam first and foremost.

Formerly, before the Goldwater campaign co-opted the Big Government Neoconservatives into the Republican Party, most politicians who identified as conservative - you may recognize the names Mark Hatfield and Bobby Taft, or, for that matter, Bill Taft - were adamantly opposed to foreign entanglements and imperialism, and sought to minimize or do away with America's military role on the state of international politics entirely.

Likewise, the liberals of the day were much more eager to jump into war: from Roosevelt to Wilson to Roosevelt, the history of American liberalism in the first half of the 20th century was largely one of leaping from one military expedition to another; it took the horrors of Vietnam to shake the liberal establishment's faith in the twin goods of internationalism and militant anti-communism. To once again quote Rothbard:

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And there were valid economic reasons for any economic libertarian to oppose to the very root the military-industrial complex. For that same complex requires government subsidization such as this world has never seen; the lingering remnants of our welfare-state even in its halcyon days never held a candle to the massive costs of our effort to play the world policeman. But our friends the conservatives seem contented to overlook this particular aspect of economic wisdom.

So what happened? How is it that American conservatism was vulgarized by false bravado? And is there any way to undo it?
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2009, 11:32:06 PM »

Yes there is. We remove all of our overseas bases and forces. We slash the military budget. We offer to make sweet gentle but fiery love to every world leader. And after all that is done.....we sign free trade agreements with everybody. It's just that simple.

Of course I agree with you, but my question is more one of why it is that I find myself agreeing more and more with liberals, on this and other matters. I suspect the answer lies with two culprits who did more to pervert the conservative cause in the twentieth century than any others: Goldie and Reagan, both of whom neglected their economic credentials to campaign on an asinine pledge to increase the deficit to pay for more and more trinkets to appease Cold Warriors. I would probably be a rock-ribbed Republican had those two cretins never existed.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2009, 11:32:19 PM »


He was 'progressive', just as T.R. was - bear in mind that the notion of progressivism at the turn of the century was very different from the present construct of the idea.
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