France bans the Burka and other veils

[k-onmmunist]

My support for feminism comes far above my support for religion.

[k-onmmunist]

Good for France. This rocks.

I'm surprised you like this. Add to the list of the few things we agree on.

[k-onmmunist]

Well, at least women can no longer wear the dreaded burqini.

Oh no.

[k-onmmunist]

The solution is to focus on assimilating immigrants rather than multiculturalism, which has utterly failed in the UK, imo.

[k-onmmunist]

The solution is to focus on assimilating immigrants rather than multiculturalism, which has utterly failed in the UK, imo.

Great, get rid of multiculturalism.  You can start with the Welsh, Scottish, and Northern Irish.

Seriously, though, the policies you're advocating are over a century out of date and smack of the US' efforts to force Native American children into missions or Australian mixed-race kids into involuntary adoption.

Ummm, no... you seem to have completely misunderstood what I said. I support a British culture not just an English one for a start off, and as for assimilation, I'm referring to being able to speak English and generally being in line with British cultural norms. Forcing women to cover their faces isn't normal in this country.

[k-onmmunist]

I support a British culture not just an English one for a start off,

But what is this unitary (and it must be unitary if can be used in the context of 'no multiculturalism') 'British culture', exactly? There isn't even a standard way of speaking English in England.

Well, a unitary British culture needs to be forged - maybe then we'd be a more united nation rather than the current collapsing union we are.

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If being able to speaking English well (because everyone in Britain can speak it at least a little bit) is an essential part of the 'national culture', then are old people from Gwynedd, western Anglesey and the Amman Valley no longer 'British'? Hardly any Muslims in Britain have much trouble with speaking English anyway; broken English is more a feature of various Christian immigrants (Poles, some west Africans, etc).

But these people are British, Al. They've lived here all their lives and they live within a British culture. Maybe they can't speak English fluently, but they can speak languages like Welsh which are just as much a part of this country as English. Also, my comment isn't against Muslim immigration only, its against all immigrants who dont immerse well.

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Ignoring the problematic use of the term 'forcing', it isn't normal among the various Muslim communities in this country either.

People should be brought up secularly and I don't think it can be considered anything other than brainwashing if they are brought up in a religion.

[k-onmmunist]

Women aren't brainwashed into wearing high heels.

[k-onmmunist]

I don't see whats enlightened about allowing people to be indoctrinated.

[k-onmmunist]

I don't see whats enlightened about allowing people to be indoctrinated.

Allowing people to dress however they want is usually thought of as enlightened. I thought you were a transsexual, shouldn't you of all people have some understanding for not legislating peoples' clothes?

My problem is with people being forced into dress in a certain way.

[k-onmmunist]

In response to the nudity point I do support allowing public nudity, but only among women ages 18-40 who also meet certain physical criteria.

Yeah, and that isn't even slightly sexist

[k-onmmunist]

In response to the nudity point I do support allowing public nudity, but only among women ages 18-40 who also meet certain physical criteria.

Yeah, and that isn't even slightly sexist

It may discriminate against men but I don't care.

It is also ageist as well as being simply stupid.