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slimey56
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« on: July 25, 2021, 10:17:23 AM »

Lmfaooooo this the perfect thread to see coming in from my morning bowl. You're trying to tell me that a substance which federal research/commercial banking are still prohibited for and usage can bar one from a good amount of jobs in most states has become too accepted? The judicial system, financial institutions, and the prospective employers are all ruining people's lives for chiefing to this day. For example, dentist literally told me she can't say for certain how getting fried impacts my teeth aside from it causing dry mouth (which is a byproduct of smoking/inhaling any non-heated gas and not unique to THC in of itself).


And sure, it can cause schizophrenia if you're genetically predisposed to it and that's a risk factor one needs to be mindful of. Frankly I find it to be a much more acceptable one than the other common societal vices such as drinking, processed foods, gambling, etc. Smoking weed doesn't ruin your life unless you let it.

The fact there are jurisdictions where you can buy all the firearms your heart desires yet a cop finding even a one-hitter's worth of bud can f--- your life tells you all you need to know about the institutional acceptance of weed in this country.


I'd see more than a few people that relied on marijuana to focus but swore up and down that it was not addictive.

Their first problem was using bud to focus lol. But in all seriousness you can develop a dependency on it.  If you're going to work or class baked then yeah you have a problem (except if it's a bottom-of-the-barrel unskilled service job like fast food or movie theater staff, in which case it makes your shift 100x more entertaining).


The main difference I would say is any adverse effects from quitting tend to resolve quickly, it's not like nicotine or alcohol or benzos where you go through phases. Whenever I stop for drug testing or just take a t-break I can't sleep well/get agitated the first few nights but withdrawal symptoms are gone within a week. Which I mean try not going online at all nor eating junk food for a week and you'll probably feel the same way. It's about the reward system in your brain and discipline more than anything else.


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slimey56
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2021, 11:47:28 AM »
« Edited: July 25, 2021, 12:07:20 PM by The Swayze Train »

Lmfaooooo this the perfect thread to see coming in from my morning bowl. You're trying to tell me that a substance which federal research/commercial banking are still prohibited for and usage can bar one from a good amount of jobs in most states has become too accepted? The judicial system, financial institutions, and the prospective employers are all ruining people's lives for chiefing to this day. For example, dentist literally told me she can't say for certain how getting fried impacts my teeth aside from it causing dry mouth (which is a byproduct of smoking/inhaling any non-heated gas and not unique to THC in of itself).


And sure, it can cause schizophrenia if you're genetically predisposed to it and that's a risk factor one needs to be mindful of. Frankly I find it to be a much more acceptable one than the other common societal vices such as drinking, processed foods, gambling, etc. Smoking weed doesn't ruin your life unless you let it.

The fact there are jurisdictions where you can buy all the firearms your heart desires yet a cop finding even a one-hitter's worth of bud can f--- your life tells you all you need to know about the institutional acceptance of weed in this country.


I'd see more than a few people that relied on marijuana to focus but swore up and down that it was not addictive.

Their first problem was using bud to focus lol. But in all seriousness you can develop a dependency on it.  If you're going to work or class baked then yeah you have a problem (except if it's a bottom-of-the-barrel unskilled service job like fast food or movie theater staff, in which case it makes your shift 100x more entertaining).


The main difference I would say is any adverse effects from quitting tend to resolve quickly, it's not like nicotine or alcohol or benzos where you go through phases. Whenever I stop for drug testing or just take a t-break I can't sleep well/get agitated the first few nights but withdrawal symptoms are gone within a week. Which I mean try not going online at all nor eating junk food for a week and you'll probably feel the same way. It's about the reward system in your brain and discipline more than anything else.



I think the above reply illustrated what I find very difficult to accept about weed legalization, there are almost no argument that attempt to justify it on it's own. It's all a bunch of whataboutism about how this or that other legal thing is more harmful and attempts to write off the negative effects of it's usage rather than try to make a consistent argument about why another vice should be accepted into society.

Justifications for legalization without referencing any other vices:

-A proven pain relief alternative to opioids
-Stress relief. S--- hits so nice after a long shift.
-Treatment of eating disorders
-Spurring creativity.
-Economic development via the demand for paraphernalia
-It's fun lol (c'mon, what isn't clear about pursuit of happiness?)
-Need for federally funded research so doctors can provide their patients with accurate info concerning their usage
-Criminalization has ruined more lives than the plant itself


Moreover, the default should be decriminalization, not the status quo; The burden of proof is not on cannabis advocates for why it should be legalized, it's on prohibitionists for why it should be banned. This thread's supposed to be about if weed has become too accepted in the West when it clearly isn't accepted by most large-scale institutions.
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slimey56
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2021, 12:14:41 PM »

Lmfaooooo this the perfect thread to see coming in from my morning bowl. You're trying to tell me that a substance which federal research/commercial banking are still prohibited for and usage can bar one from a good amount of jobs in most states has become too accepted? The judicial system, financial institutions, and the prospective employers are all ruining people's lives for chiefing to this day. For example, dentist literally told me she can't say for certain how getting fried impacts my teeth aside from it causing dry mouth (which is a byproduct of smoking/inhaling any non-heated gas and not unique to THC in of itself).



I mean, assuming you smoke the marijuana, it's still smoking, which has fairly obvious bad effects?

Plus idk how people smoke in the US; but here every person I know that smokes marijuana usually mixes it with a bit of tobacco, so you add all the bad effects of tobacco (perhaps to a lesser extent but it is still there!); and the impact of tobacco on your teeth is more than obvious and well-studied.


Hence the reiteration of any heated gas being a detriment to your oral health/respiratory tract. That said, unlike tobacco where nicotine itself is harmful to dental health because of its vaso-constrictive effects and promotion of osteomylitis, there's very little research on the adverse effects of THC itself. Therefore the effects of edibles, topical applications, etc are unknown.


As for your 2nd question, personally the only times I do are with blunts (tobacco cigar gutted out and stuffed with marijuana). Spliffs (Js with tobaccy in them) and mole-bowls are common here but a lot less common than overseas. More often than not it's smoked straight. Personally I'm not a fan, far too much of a head rush.
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