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Abolish CA's death penalty
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Keep CA's death penalty
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RIP Robert H Bork
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Junior Chimp
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« on: July 23, 2012, 03:37:23 PM »

Keep it.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 03:44:03 PM »


You do realize that the death penalty in California is now basically an extremely expensive form of life in prison, don't you?

Perhaps. I still don't favor abolishing it, however.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 03:51:43 PM »


You do realize that the death penalty in California is now basically an extremely expensive form of life in prison, don't you?

Perhaps. I still don't favor abolishing it, however.

Any particular reason why an inoperative death penalty is better than no death penalty?

I believe that the possibility of capital punishment should exist, even if it is not used. The fact that California has an inoperative death penalty, to me, is more of an argument against the fact that it is inoperative, not against the death penalty itself.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2012, 02:47:50 PM »

I believe that every sapient individual has a fundamental right to life, something that no government can rightfully take away.

Only the sapient?  (I admit I had to look it up.)  So stupid and crazy people get no such right?

Anyway, by that standard you'd have to oppose a government using deadly force to oppose a military invasion.

Stupid and crazy people are generally considered sapient, unless you are Peter Singer.

This.

I say "sapient" to preclude responses of "hurrdurr what about feetuses."

I knew that that was your reason, and I've asked you this before:

Why should sapience be the deciding factor in determining one's right to life?
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