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Question: Would you oppose Arabs invading/annexing Israeli territory?
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Yes
 
#2
No
 
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Total Voters: 65

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theflyingmongoose
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« on: December 21, 2022, 10:34:45 PM »

What do you think?
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theflyingmongoose
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2022, 10:40:02 PM »

What Arabs and what Israeli territory? Are we talking about Palestinians getting sovereignty over the West Bank or Hamas occupying Tel Aviv?
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theflyingmongoose
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2022, 09:23:01 AM »

Personally:

(Assuming it was signed tomorrow)
-All Israeli settlers will be expelled with compensation within the next 12 months, with those who refuse being forcibly removed without compensation over the following 6 months. Haredi Jews who refuse to leave will lose their voting rights.
-Palestine holds free elections by December of 2024 with all non-settler residents being allowed to vote. International inspectors from the EU, Carter Center, and other groups which aren't blindingly biased (eh hem US Government) monitor the results. Fatah and Hamas will be banned for a new slate. These elections will be for a constitutional convention, which will decide on a new form of government (parliamentary, presidential, etc). Elections for that new government will take place by December of 2025.
-Palestine must ensure freedom of religion and freedoms for women. Not like western level immediately, but perhaps Jordan at a bare minimum.
-Palestine gets full national sovereignty over its territory. This includes areas A, B, and C in the Oslo Accords, with possible joint security areas/border changes around Jerusalem. Israeli forces will provide training as needed. This will conclude by 2026.
-Palestine gradually takes control of all public services (health, security, etc) slowly, beginning in 2023 and ending in 2029.
-Palestine will get several billion in aid per year financed mostly by the Israeli government but with contributions from the Arab world so they finally put their money where their mouth is. However, they will have to allow UN observers to monitor their spending for at least ten years so the money actually flows towards helping people.
-Palestine will get relief from all existing sanctions, again for a 'fresh slate'.
-Hamas's "government" in Gaza will be eliminated in one way or another, preferably involving the UN or at worst Egypt. Israel won't be involved, although the UN will pay for any ammunition wasted on shooting down rockets along with compensation to any individuals killed/wounded and any property damaged.
-Gaza will be reunited with with Palestine proper on January 1, 2030 if all goes to plan.
-Palestinians who are still living who had their property taken away will be allowed to return with compensation. Their descendants will be permitted to come with after passing a background check.
-Descendants of Palestinians who had their land stolen who are no longer alive will receive visas and compensation.
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2022, 01:42:57 PM »

1/3 of the poll respondents so far might want to explain themselves.

Oh don't worry, they support the Arabs invading and annexing Israeli territory to create an equitable nation for all its citizens...*

*We will take no responsibility for any genocide, ethnic cleansing and pogroms which we do not support but also send the Jews back to Europe

the Europeans that voted no though probably also don't want Jews in Europe. Funnily enough, if you read through a comment section on a video posted by a European outlet on a non-nordic European anti-Semitic incident (virtually all comments are anti-Semitic) some of the people will actually be pro-Zionist because they want the Jews gone.

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