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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2022, 02:59:36 AM »

Doctor Oz has decided to walk into the Dark Brandon minefield. Going well!

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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2022, 06:33:14 AM »

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but there's a clear divide between Oz's primary attack ad and Fetterman's primary attack ad.

Oz's (the notorious "1/3" ad) is your boilerplate scary music, blue-filtered, "John Fetterman wants to [insert negative here]. 

Fetterman's is him in a hoodie, just talking like a normal guy.  "My opponent [blah blah] New Jersey.  Really? Is that what we want representing our state?" I'll also note that I don't think I've seen a single Oz ad where he speaks directly to the voters. 


Fetterman has a unique gift to turn any Oz misstep- or even normal action- into an attack that resonates with voters. Like when Oz wore pants and Fetterman did the 'Zenga Fabrics' thing.
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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2022, 03:14:42 PM »



Oz's team must be scrambling for a new desperate attack other than "Fetterman is missing."

As you saw from the 90 days one Oz is just ignoring the facts regardless of all evidence on the contrary.
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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2022, 02:36:52 AM »

"Criminals Committing Crimes"



This is somehow dumber than the 1/3 nonsense.
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« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2022, 08:15:38 PM »

Let's see what Oz is up to... wait Jesus fu-

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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2022, 03:50:43 PM »

Fetterman isn't winning by 20 he will win by 6.5 and Casey will win by 6.5 but it's won't be that close

We would have lost if McCormick was nominated he was averaging plus 5 over Fetterman
I have John Fetterman winning 49-47, though my prediction may change either in John Fetterman favor or to Dr. Oz’s favor as the election gets closer.

Lean D->Safe D
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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2022, 06:16:30 PM »



But I was told that Fetterman’s crossover appeal was a myth?!

Tbf that's very anecdotal and registration can lag very heavily. A lot of rural ultra-Trump counties in Appalachia are still majority registered Ds. And no matter what there are bound to be a handful of Biden-Oz or Trump-Fetterman voters out there.

I mean not all Trump voters are lost causes. Casey and Wolf showed enough of them are willing to vote downballot D to win, even post Trump. Obviously less now, but I can't imagine polarization sweeping an entire 12% of the 2018 electorate away.
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2022, 03:47:50 PM »

Given Fetterman's clear health issues, I kind of wish we had nominated Lamb or Kenyatta.

Either of them would also be destroying Oz, and we wouldn't be running the risk of an incumbent dying halfway through a term and a Governor Mastriano appointing his replacement.

If Fetterman wins, Mastriano ain't winning.  The two outcomes are not independent.

I'll disagree with you, if only because Mastriano is running a competent campaign and Oz isn't even trying to run a competent campaign. Based on that alone, I could see a split decision in Pennsylvania.

He just said at a rally he wants to turn PA into 'Northern Florida'.
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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2022, 09:48:40 PM »

lol


One of Fetterman's biggest strengths is to turn the normally annoying beg for money into a funny gimmick that gets people interested in the campaign.
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« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2022, 01:31:04 AM »

Given Fetterman's clear health issues, I kind of wish we had nominated Lamb or Kenyatta.

Either of them would also be destroying Oz, and we wouldn't be running the risk of an incumbent dying halfway through a term and a Governor Mastriano appointing his replacement.

If Fetterman wins, Mastriano ain't winning.  The two outcomes are not independent.

I'll disagree with you, if only because Mastriano is running a competent campaign and Oz isn't even trying to run a competent campaign. Based on that alone, I could see a split decision in Pennsylvania.

He just said at a rally he wants to turn PA into 'Northern Florida'.

If that’s all he wanted to do I’d easily support him as Florida is one of the best states in the country

He also wants to end democracy.
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« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2022, 03:44:17 AM »

Given Fetterman's clear health issues, I kind of wish we had nominated Lamb or Kenyatta.

Either of them would also be destroying Oz, and we wouldn't be running the risk of an incumbent dying halfway through a term and a Governor Mastriano appointing his replacement.

If Fetterman wins, Mastriano ain't winning.  The two outcomes are not independent.

I'll disagree with you, if only because Mastriano is running a competent campaign and Oz isn't even trying to run a competent campaign. Based on that alone, I could see a split decision in Pennsylvania.

He just said at a rally he wants to turn PA into 'Northern Florida'.

If that’s all he wanted to do I’d easily support him as Florida is one of the best states in the country

He also wants to end democracy.

Can you please read my posts better next time

While you may like Florida it doesn't have the best reputation in the rest of the country.
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« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2022, 06:58:21 AM »

Given Fetterman's clear health issues, I kind of wish we had nominated Lamb or Kenyatta.

Either of them would also be destroying Oz, and we wouldn't be running the risk of an incumbent dying halfway through a term and a Governor Mastriano appointing his replacement.

If Fetterman wins, Mastriano ain't winning.  The two outcomes are not independent.

I'll disagree with you, if only because Mastriano is running a competent campaign and Oz isn't even trying to run a competent campaign. Based on that alone, I could see a split decision in Pennsylvania.

He just said at a rally he wants to turn PA into 'Northern Florida'.

If that’s all he wanted to do I’d easily support him as Florida is one of the best states in the country

It looks better from your distance.

Imagine wanting to move from a clean, forested state with good healthcare to a sinking swamp full of meth and alligators just because you like the fact that the governor doesn't like teaching about the Holocaust.
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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2022, 03:16:53 AM »

I suppose the Washington equivalent would be something like “Worshington has many lovely cities like ‘seh-quim’ and ‘poo-yallup.’”

In California it would be like if the candidate went to Trader Joe's, and like called it like, you know, Walmart. That would be so like over the top and like honestly it would make me like you know not want to vote for them.
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« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2022, 05:22:40 PM »

Question from someone who doesn't follow the race. Is Fetterman receiving any support from the party establishment? He doesn't look like their type.

A lot.


Endorsed by Biden, Shapiro, Casey, Warren, Peters, the entire PA Dem Congressional Delegation, and even Ben Nelson.

Along with groups like Dem Majority For Israel, DSCC, J Street, NARAL, and the rest of the establishment ones.
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« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2022, 05:36:27 PM »

Newt Thinks Oz Will Win

LEAN D->SAFE R
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« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2022, 08:09:56 PM »

I honestly suspect Oz thought that, by getting himself elected to the Senate, he was buying respect from other rich people and other doctors who think he's a TV quack. Getting effortlessly dunked on by a guy who looks like Fetterman does even as his staff sycophanticallly tell him everything's going to be alright on the night has to hurt.



Did he... did he think this made things better? By starting it off with "My houseS" he should've known this was not something to tweet...

When Fetterman was 50 he was LG of PA.
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« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2022, 09:35:54 PM »



> Accused of being out-of-state elite weirdo bc of multiple homes by opponent
> Argue that you bootstrapped your way to buying your homes, plural
> Argue that saying you have 10 homes is inaccurate because 8 of them are "properties" (?)
> "Debate me"

Perfect. No notes

Did Oz delete that one?
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« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2022, 09:58:24 PM »

Oh my god he got ratioed by a self-proclaimed transit nerd with 95 followers.
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« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2022, 10:04:41 PM »

Fetterman isn't just tweeting.

He's dunking on Oz, cleverly fundraising off of it in a way people don't get annoyed by, before slamming him on the airwaves and TV.
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« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2022, 05:50:44 AM »

With the new POS (R) poll, 538 now gives Fetterman a 68 in 100 chance of winning. That's slightly more than Ron Johnson, who has a 67 in 100 chance. LOL

Fetterman having a 68% chance is perfectly reasonable. Barnes at 33% though is LOL
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« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2022, 02:12:32 PM »


Source?
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« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2022, 03:41:35 PM »

Because Fetterman is slandering him with xenophobic and classist attacks
Classist against who? Rich people?
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« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2022, 08:08:11 PM »

There's also whatever this is.

Also, Oz is going to outdo Graham from 2020. He's been on Fox News literally every day this week.



He's also trying to outdo himself in saying the dumbest f@cking thing possible.
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« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2022, 07:15:39 PM »

This won't move the needle at all. Oz narrowly wins in the end.

Sorry, but I completely disagree with you on this

Oz is the Christine o'donnell of this election cycle and in the end, I just think he is a bad candidate who is going to lose even at a time when the political environment is favorable to Republican just as Christine o'donnell did in 2010....

Plus, unlike o'donnell OZ has the misfortune of running at the same time Doug mastriano became the Republican nominee for governor lol

Doug mastriano poll numbers are almost as bad as OZ himself and even if Oz suddenly starts doing better in the next few months he is still going to be dragged down by Mastriano...





I think he's more like Sharon Angle. He defeated the slightly-less-outrageous candidate in a swing state and lost a race that could have been won.
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« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2022, 10:13:24 PM »

HOLY sh**t:

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