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« on: December 23, 2020, 04:56:07 PM »

Will McConnell stopping the $2000 checks help the Georgia Democrats?

I’m sure Pelosi will get unanimous consent to change the bill,  assuming McConnell doesn’t bribe/threaten a republican house member to oppose it.

Than it would be up to McConnell to both call the senate back to session AND make sure no one opposes it. Incredibly unlikely.

McConnell is power hungry and almost always has the upper hand. Being forced to do stuff he doesn’t support is unthinkable for him, even from Trump. Hell, didn’t trump say McConnell was the only guy that scares him?

McConnell only support the $600 checks because of the senate race. Otherwise he wouldn’t have allowed them in the bill.

Personally, I don’t think Trump will veto the bill. But it puts the two incumbent Georgian Republicans in a bad spot because their leader refused to give more money to people
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2020, 05:10:24 PM »

Will McConnell stopping the $2000 checks help the Georgia Democrats?

I’m sure Pelosi will get unanimous consent to change the bill,  assuming McConnell doesn’t bribe/threaten a republican house member to oppose it.

Than it would be up to McConnell to both call the senate back to session AND make sure no one opposes it. Incredibly unlikely.

McConnell is power hungry and almost always has the upper hand. Being forced to do stuff he doesn’t support is unthinkable for him, even from Trump. Hell, didn’t trump say McConnell was the only guy that scares him?

McConnell only support the $600 checks because of the senate race. Otherwise he wouldn’t have allowed them in the bill.

Personally, I don’t think Trump will veto the bill. But it puts the two incumbent Georgian Republicans in a bad spot because their leader refused to give more money to people

Kevin McCarthy has already said there won't be unanimous consent in the House.
Oh ok. Thanks for letting me know!


I have a strong feeling that McConnell called McCarthy demanding he get someone to stop the bill. Easier to blame on some random house republican from a safe red district than several Senate Republicans.

Even if a republican stop the vocal consent, Pelosi can just bring it to a floor vote. Regardless it’s going to the senate
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2020, 09:54:02 PM »

David Perdue was CEO of Dollar General

No other company has done more harm to the economies of small southern towns than freaking Dollar General. It devastates dozens of stores whenever one is built.

Along with NAFTA, China in WTO, Walmart, and factory farms
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2020, 09:52:12 PM »

I know it would take 60 votes to pass, but doesn't take a simple majority to force a floor vote? Or are the Republicans who support the stimulus to scared of Moscow Mitch to side with Democrats and force a floor vote.

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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2021, 11:29:23 PM »

Yep.

What’s killing us is the lack of credible polling

I just don’t take Emerson, surveyusa, trafalgar, etc seriously

Gravis is ok I guess, but even they have pooped the bed at times in recent cycles

Where are fox, cnn, abc/WAPO, Monmouth, Sienna, etc?

Ah yes, the brilliant posters who respectively had Biden up by 16 nationally, up 17 in Wisconsin, Van Drew trailing by 5, and double digits undecided a couple days before the election.
No one had Biden up by 16 nationally. And had that one poll that had Biden up 17 was an outlier. The very pollster said so.

For the most part, the polls were spot on. They correctly predicted 48 states. The margins were off, but that’s called the margin of error.

The truth is, you can’t be 100% accurate when it comes to polls.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2021, 11:28:41 AM »

Can't wait til our new Senate Majority this week and Biden confirmation as Prez, we are on the verge of a Trifecta that we should of won in Nov

it would be the smallest working trifecta in american history.

for your own sanity, please temper your expectations about what you will accomplish.

barack obama had 60 (60!) dem senators in 2009 and 2010 and there was still drama and roadbumps.

you will not be passing divisive ideological big ticket items with a 5 person house majority and a 51-50 senate. you just won't.

you will get judges, infrastructure, and maybe certain tax increases.

in fact, the 5 vote majority in the house may be even more of an issue than joe manchin. Not hard at all to find 5 house dems who represent wealthy business districts who will oppose tax increases.  

a double digit number of republicans opposed the TCJA because it repealed SALT deductions.

why wouldn't at least a few house dems from wealthy districts be spooked about pissing off some constituents?
Your right, it would be a tight trifecta

But this isn't 2009

The stimulus in 2009 was like venom to GOP. This year the GOP led congress passed 4 stimulus bills, all larger than the one in 2009. With stuff like checks and welfare which would have been unthinkable ten years ago.

And I think every senate Democrat, even Manchin, is on record to support a public option unlike 2009.

I think tax increases are unlikely, Biden doesn't want to stall growth. But I expect budgets with lots of education, welfare, and infrastructure funding like what they should have done back in 2009.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2021, 03:03:24 PM »


Why on Earth would he tweet this? Did he get confuse with another ad
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2021, 08:57:08 AM »
« Edited: January 05, 2021, 09:19:49 AM by Brittain33 »

When is the earliest Ossoff and Warnock can be sworn in? Because maybe Loeffler won't even get a chance to commit treason. But I suppose Ossoff and Warnock will need to be ready to fly to DC tonight
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2021, 09:15:10 AM »

When is the earliest Ossoff and Warnock can be sworn in? Because maybe that bitch Loeffler won't even get a chance to commit treason. But I suppose Ossoff and Warnock will need to be ready to fly to DC tonight

If they win by 2-3% or so somehow (with no recount), probably in 10-15 days.

That’s what it takes in GA to certify results in a normal election ...
Well, if they can get sworn by the 20th I am ok. Moscow Mitch should be minority leader at the inauguration.
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2021, 09:40:55 AM »

Are we looking at days and days of vote counting, or does anyone think we could know by tonight or tomorrow?
Most likely it will take a few days

Georgia claimed they could count all the mail in votes by election night and they failed
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2021, 08:12:52 PM »

At this point if Loeffler and Perdue lose it's 100% because of bad turnout in rural areas.

The margins are tracking very closely with the general election but there is evidence of bad turnout in some big rural counties.  If they lose it's 100% on Trump.  Maybe losing the Senate would wake the GOP to the toxicity of Trump.
If Democrats win this, Biden should give the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Lin Wood for tricking GOP rubes into not voting
If I was Biden, I’d give Stacy Abrams any cabinet post she wanted. Secretary of State? She got it.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2021, 08:18:23 PM »

Between the extended vote count, lawsuits, media attention, Trump’s personal threats, and nonstop ads I’m sure Georgia election officials wanted to hasten tonight’s vote count and be done with the last two months haha
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2021, 08:31:23 PM »

Well predictit has flipped now and quite considerably.

Quite a shame. The last thing the country needs is 1 party domination at the federal level, divided government would have been so much better.

What monster will we have in 2024 now.


What’s wrong with you? You like people not having healthcare or huge student loans? You like people getting their food stamps cut and welfare cut? And ignore climate change and income inequality? And allow more vacancies in the courts?  
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2021, 08:33:25 PM »

Well predictit has flipped now and quite considerably.

Quite a shame. The last thing the country needs is 1 party domination at the federal level, divided government would have been so much better.

What monster will we have in 2024 now.

Don’t worry, it will be a very short-lived trifecta.
Assuming the GOP takes back the house in 2022, that means the three most recent trifecta only last 2 years
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2021, 08:36:47 PM »

If that rich bitch loses tonight, I’ll bet my left testicle that she curses the poor rural people of Georgia that she pretend to praise and dress like
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2021, 08:45:11 PM »
« Edited: January 05, 2021, 08:46:20 PM by Brittain33 »

The disappearance of the working class voter without Trump in the ballot is hilarious. Wonder how Republicans will sell the “working class party” narrative without Trump from now on when they are firmly against popular economic stuff like the $2000 stimulus.

Perdue and Loeffler are also poor candidates to appeal to the working class.
Loeffler owns a NBA team, worth 800million, and her husband is chair of literal Wall Street stock exchange

Perdue was CEO of Dollar General, a company that second to Walmart has destroyed small town America

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2021, 08:48:50 PM »

If both Democrats carry this election, it might lend more credence to the general observation on southern states in the modern day alignment. If they flip D, they don't come back.
North Carolin and Florida beg to differ

But I do hope that Georgia becomes a solid D state
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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2021, 08:59:43 PM »

Anybody checked in on MillenialMAModerate?

I’m here and refuse to let the disgusting amount of hope you all have enter into my conscious.

I’m doom and gloom until the sloth himself has the gavel ripped from his hands
You gotta hand it to Joe Manchin. He’s lasted far longer than thought possible in the reddest of red states. He did the right think to vote for impeachment, did his dream job, and now the most powerful man in the country. All while genuinely helping the people of his state
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2021, 09:03:19 PM »

Stacy Abrams should be incited to the inauguration and awarded the medal of freedom. And given a cabinet post until she becomes governor of Georgia and DNC chair
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2021, 09:36:27 PM »

Will we get calls tonight?
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2021, 10:02:57 PM »

Loeffler +1.3, Perdue +2.0... Red mirage reaching its peak right now as Red counties continue to putter out reporting, just waiting for all blue counties to swoop in...
When though?Huh??
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2021, 10:29:03 PM »

There aren't any votes for that. Joe Biden will be able to appoint his cabinet, pass a massive COVID stimulus bill with income replacement, implement a 100-day lockdown to finally defeat COVID, forgive student loan debt, and appoint judges however if these results turn out in favor of the Democrats. The Democrats are beyond screwed in 2022 however and 2024 is a safe Republican year.
Biden isn’t for a 100 lockdown. Literally no one in the country wants that. Besides COVID has already peaked for the season and it’s expected to continue to go down from this point on (University of Washington model). Besides that would be electoral suicide because it’ll destroy the economy.


Biden wants a 100 days of masks, but hasn’t even committed to enforcing that. I don’t know why doomers love lockdowns and destroying people’s livilhoods but thank god Biden isn’t for it

People calling for another shutdown should go cry in the corner because they are in the minority
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2021, 11:41:12 PM »

So I guess we have proven beyond doubt, that promising people COLD HARD CASH, is a lot more effective than whatever the hell the Democrats have been running on as of late.

Andrew Yang certainly had the right idea back in the primaries.
Than why did he go no where? He didn’t crack 1%
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2021, 11:58:03 PM »

When is the next drop? This is ridiculous
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2021, 08:16:00 AM »

I’m opposed to Stacey Abrams running for Governor in 2022. She needs to run the Florida Democratic Party.
She can be Governor and DNC chair at the same time. That way she has her dream job while helping states like Florida
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