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Motorcity
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« on: March 23, 2021, 09:55:43 AM »

Maybe, but I doubt he'll win the popular vote (not that that's what matters).

I find it a little disingenuous to say the popular vote doesn't matter.  Of course it doesn't matter in terms of winning the election, and that's obviously by far the most important thing.  But I think the popular vote undeniably has a certain symbolic value, such that winning it isn't meaningless.  Donald Trump obviously thought so (boy, it's really horrific to think that I agree with that man on anything!).  Otherwise he wouldn't have falsely claimed to have won it in 2016 if millions of votes he (falsely) said were illegal were discounted. 
I live in Tennesse. Someone asked me why I bothered to vote for Biden knowing Trump will win my state

There was a very important reason. I wanted to add my vote to the national popular vote total.

Biden won by 7 million votes. On paper, that doesn't mean anything. But I truly think that had Biden won by 2-3 million votes like Hillary, the GOP would be far more willing to help Trump steal the election. 2-3 million can come from California alone and can be brushed off by the GOP. Maybe I am paranoid but I agree the popular vote margin is symbolic. Especially with Biden winning a outright majority. The GOP can't claim that third party votes cost them victory
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Motorcity
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2021, 10:49:51 AM »

Maybe, but I doubt he'll win the popular vote (not that that's what matters).

I find it a little disingenuous to say the popular vote doesn't matter.  Of course it doesn't matter in terms of winning the election, and that's obviously by far the most important thing.  But I think the popular vote undeniably has a certain symbolic value, such that winning it isn't meaningless.  Donald Trump obviously thought so (boy, it's really horrific to think that I agree with that man on anything!).  Otherwise he wouldn't have falsely claimed to have won it in 2016 if millions of votes he (falsely) said were illegal were discounted. 
I live in Tennesse. Someone asked me why I bothered to vote for Biden knowing Trump will win my state

There was a very important reason. I wanted to add my vote to the national popular vote total.

Biden won by 7 million votes. On paper, that doesn't mean anything. But I truly think that had Biden won by 2-3 million votes like Hillary, the GOP would be far more willing to help Trump steal the election. 2-3 million can come from California alone and can be brushed off by the GOP. Maybe I am paranoid but I agree the popular vote margin is symbolic. Especially with Biden winning a outright majority. The GOP can't claim that third party votes cost them victory

Would there be a difference if Biden won by half the national popular margin, but the same map?
Probably not

Suppose Biden won by 3 million but loses GA and AZ. I'd expect the GOP to FAR more willing to steal WI but less willing if Biden won by 7 million
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