French presidential election, 2022

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

lol Zemmour is being investigated because his campaign made a list of all French jews and he bought a list of their phone numbers to target them for his campaign.

Is he antisemitist?

As stated above he got a lot of support in israel so I'd *assume* not.

Yes he is a self hating antisémite. Holocaust Denier and uncle Tom (or I think the correct term is a Kapo). But obviously for strategic reasons public enemy number 1 must remain Muslims and Arabs.

Are you implying Zemmour's islamophobia is not genuine? Lol

Describing Zemmour as a "self hating Jew" is a bit dumb and simplistic, imo. As far as I know Eric Zemmour does not deny his Jewish identity. The point is that Zemmour is a (far-right,  racist, extreme) French nationalist who believes France is the supteme value. In other words, Zemmour puts his Frenchiness ahead of his Jewishness. The former belongs to the public sphere andcthe latter belongs to the private sphere. In Zemmour's mind, any kind of particularism (ethnic or regional identity) is enemy of the Nation, which is One and Indivisible. Regional separatism and interests separated from those of the French Nation are unacceptable in Zemmour's view. In that regard, I see him as a far-right Jacobin

It's not surprising at all the success of a far-right islamophobic nationalist of Jewish heritage in Israel

No, you are right, Zemmour's character was formed by his family's background and so his Islamophobia is genuine. He believes that because Algeria under the FLN expelled pieds noirs and Jews that all Arabs are like that. But what I meant was his ascendancy is convenient given French political discourse is veering towards that rhetoric. They mention how halal butchers are taking over but nothing against ultra-Orthodx Haredi who self-segregate.

But I do think there is a lot of inner self hatred there. Not only of himself, just look at what an absolute pipsqueak the guy was in certain debates stuttering and chundering like a total beta. But also of his community ; Zemmour would be the kind of Israeli "nationalist" that despises 60-70% of Israel's population. In the end he thought that Petain was justified in giving foreign Jews, and saving French ones. So he would have been a Kapo, 100% he would have betrayed fellow Jews to save his own personalist political ambitions in such a scenario. So this man is an anti-Semite.

I think a promient example of this was his attempt to both-sides the Dreyus Affair and claim there is serious doubt about his innocence.

Rather than 'self-hatred', I think the Dreyfuss affair creates a 'conflict of interest ' in Zemmour and his French reactionary nationalist self prevails

On the other hand, Zemmour got more than 40% of the vote in the most 'liberal' place of Israel. It's not surprising at all, given the prevalence of ethnic nationalism and islamophobia in that constituency. Either 'jacobin' or ethnically based, exclusive forms of nationalism are reactionary by definition.  

That's misleading all the vote is counted as if it's from Tel Avi but that's only because the French Embassy is located there. The actual voters are scattered around Israel.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Singapore at 60% Macron. I think that's the highest in the world for any expat vote and at just 2% Le Penn certainly the lowest for her. Zemmour distantly third at 10% and Melachon just ahead at 9%

https://twitter.com/KaluzaVladimir/status/1513165479313125379?t=_TI3cwLTDsvxabvc...

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

I suppose the one saving grace for the French Left is that there doesn't really seem to be an anointed successor for The Flawless and the Beautiful when he decides to shed his mortal guise and ascend Mount Olympus, and his absence would free up a lot of woolly centre left voters vaguely ok with him as a figure that has some need to occasionally give them some policy bones. Of course, the fact that the French Left needs these people and finds it so hard to grab some people that aouldy have voted for UK labour and the SPD even at their nadirs is not particularly fantastic news, but that predated the  Flanpocalypse tbh.

Is that really a limitation, flawless successors get tossed out all the time without the slightest hint of drama. Like is anybody in the UK even among the online left, still hung up by what happend to Laura Pidcock ?

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Expat vote results are out by consular constituency and they're hilarious. Zemmour won in Israel, Russia (minus Yekaterinburg constituency) - no comment - Thailand and the Almaty constituency. He also won 31% in the Bahamas and 25.4% in Miami. I will just say one thing about this: LOL.

What's the makeup of french ex-pats in Russia like? I know those in Singapore tend to be higher professionals and were generally very much centrist.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Interesting psephological analysis I saw on reddit

You mind giving us non-french speakers a brief translation ?

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

The protests "against the results of the 1rst round" by the university students is gathering a lot of media momentum. It's quite clear that rather than dust ourselves down and analyse where we went wrong, the grandstanding and the Macron = Le Pen rhetoric has started from, by their own paramaters, white privileged students who are exercising their privilege by not voting against the far right. Sad state of affairs, but predictable given who their lider maximo is.

I always found protesting against legitimate election results silly, the main point of a protest is to draw attention to a cause you feel isn't getting the attention it deserves. Protesting against an election result unless directed against either changing the electoral system or abolishing dmeocracy is meaningless.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

I'm getting nervous, probably irresponsible based on the information out there but still sweating

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Can someone find me the link of the crowd in reunion chanting Allahu Akbar in favour of Le Penn in reunion ?

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Blank ballot for me. Both of them can go to hell

Strange choice in a competive election.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Where would Le Penn voters have gone in a hypothetical Macron Vs Melenchon race ?

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Unrelated, but the descriptions done of Seine et Marne by Zinneke and Parochial Boy remind me, almost word by word, of the infamous Vox Green Belt that developed around the Madrid metro area here

I wonder what attracts such exurban type places to far right policies, regardless of country and culture

It attracts people with money who are connected to the metropolis economical but dislike urban lifestyle/culture. So about as perfect a conservative demographic as you can get.