PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Fetterman is a Randy Bryce 2.0, a carciture of a working class democrat that all metropolitan democrats think is exactly what they need to win back rural and working class areas due to this aesthetics despite his policy and rethoric being indistrigushable from a normal progressive. and are then suprised when he flops among those voters.

Fetterman's main issue seems to be legal weed which while broadly popular isn't really an important issue that will allow him to make gains among trump voters. He has never run in actual competitive election beyond his LG primary where he was the sole western PA canidate against 4 philly canidates and his braddock mayor primary.  Braddock is a town that gave Joe Biden 90% of their vote, so it's hardly any indication of cross-over support.

Connor Lamb on the other hand flipped a trump +20% district against a fairly normal repubclain candidate and won another Trump district by double digits in 2018 an incredibly strong perfomance. Even in 2020 his vote share was higher than Biden showing proof that he is able to win over trump and non-democratic voters, despite his margin being lower due to his republcian opponent outperforming trump.

This! People think Fetterman is some electoral juggernaut, when he’s just a progressive with a beard

I don't think Fetterman is an electoral titan, but aesthetics are a pretty big part of politics these days, and not something you can completely dismiss in a crowded primary

I don't disagree that he's got a good shot in the primary purely because of name recognition, I think he's beloved among Partisan democrats and will perform surprisingly well in Philly soley because he's the only democrat most voters will be able to name. I do think however his aesthetics won't win him many working class voters.

Remember Trumps aesthetics of a gaudy gold loving new yorker living in a post-mordern penthouse in manhattan didn't stop him from making huge gains among working class communites. What's important is Rhetoric and vibes, Fetterman's rethoric is indistughsable from a normal progressive besides perhaps an extra focus on legal weed while he does an inauthentic vibe.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

I mean Fetterman's celling is a 5 point loss and historical foot-note, so I think Lamb has got him beat in that regard.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Nah, Lambchin loses even harder.

Fetterman could be Presidential material, but let's all get back to reality for a second. Harris exists.

This is pure nonsense, there is no evidence the man has any special political talent or appeal to anyone outside of democratic voters. He's literary never won a competitive election that wasn't a dem primary.

It's like if the republicans had some non-binary colored hair black person running who occasionally make some greenwaldian arguments on the left but is otherwise a traditional trumpist republican in terms of policy and rhetoric started hyping them up as an electoral god because they won a few primaries with a trump endorsement.

He's the democratic version of Winsome Sears
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[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

He just published an op-ed in the Washington Examiner announcing his candidacy.

Edit: Just read it. It's about 8 paragraphs of nonsense. Half of it is patting himself on the back for having a TV show, half of it is vague fist-shaking at "The Elites" for shuttering the country during the pandemic (which he also acknowledges killed a lot of people)

He praises the vaccines (which he specifically gives credit to Trump for) so that means he's going nowhere with the Trumpists. If he touts the vaccine on the campaign trail, he's screwed.

Lazy article from a guy who clearly knows nothing about Pennsylvania or policy in general and is doing this as a clear publicity stunt.

I think his legal name Mehmed Oz and the fact that he admits to being muslim is going to screw him far more.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

One very telling fact about Fetterman is the number of Senate democrat endorsements he's gotten.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Oz is a muslim and he's confirmed that he's still a practising one, The Dem candidate might not be able to attack that directly but a PAC will definitely use it, might reduce republican entuhisasm.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

It's amusing, to be honest. If Lamb is the best candidate, why isn't he crushing Fetterman in the polls?

Why did Christine O'Donnell win the 2010 Deleware senate seat Primary over Mike Castle ?

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

American politics is just vibes

https://mobile.twitter.com/lrozen/status/1525549534486614016
https://mobile.twitter.com/lrozen/status/1525551881464029185

>its real

The white working class voted for Tom wolf not Fetterman who has no general election accomplishment at all.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

The white working class voted for Tom wolf not Fetterman who has no general election accomplishment at all.

Cope and seethe

The "Articulate" Left at work here

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

The white working class voted for Tom wolf not Fetterman who has no general election accomplishment at all.

Buddy you’re replying to a tweet that demonstrates the literal opposite. You’re denying reality by saying this. Disliking Fetterman’s positions is one thing; overlooking his appeal to make yourself feel better is another.

The meme I was replying too has him overlaying the 2018 gubernatorial results which were driven by Tom wolf

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Oz +5.. I expect that Emerson poll to be accurate to the final results.

I highly doubt that, Oz is underwater among republicans. I doubt he could win the general.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Oz looses by 3.
Fetterman wins but not by the total landslide expected.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Yes, Dr Oz should be ashamed of selling snake oil to get obsenecley rich.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

These memes are going to have zero electorall impact whatsoever.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

This is pretty good -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihRX-hXQjgo

Nice Ad but using John Oliver, the epitome of smug foregin liberal is a strange choice.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

https://twitter.com/JamesFallows/status/1566157682763042816

Dr. Oz breaks Hippocratic oath wasn’t on my bingo card

He built his entire fortune from breaking it, so it probably should have been on your card.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Tbh if dems are able to get 2018 style turnout of Philly, then I just don't see how Oz can be comfortable given Fetterman is expected to overperform out west.