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Benjamin Frank
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« on: January 20, 2022, 02:13:55 AM »

Manchin and Sinema are useless idiots.
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Benjamin Frank
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2022, 02:46:04 AM »

Agreed - for their party, but they have served their Republican masters quite well - and neither will be rewarded.

Smiley

That's what I meant.  "Useful idiot' is a reference to what the Soviet leaders thought of the American liberal appeasers.  I think 'useless idiot' is more appropriate because Manchin and Sinema aren't even well meaning.
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Benjamin Frank
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2022, 03:09:05 AM »

I have to say this: abcdefu to Manchin and Sinema. They sold our party and country out.

And democracy.
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Benjamin Frank
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2022, 03:17:50 AM »

It's only fitting that an undemocratic and arbitrary rule designed to impede the will of the majority of legislators is used to help ensure the continuance of undemocratic and arbitrary rules designed to impede the will of the majority of voters.

It's interesting though that Manchin and Sinema only believe this needs to be at the federal government level but that there is no need for a filibuster for state governments.

It's also interesting how in all the Republican majority states where none of these governments have the filibuster that these Republicans aren't rushing to bring them in in order to defend minority interests.  The only thing that is similar to the filibuster at the state level that I'm aware of is states that require a supermajority to raise taxes.
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Benjamin Frank
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2022, 05:15:01 AM »
« Edited: January 21, 2022, 05:53:34 AM by Nasty but Frank »

I have to say this: abcdefu to Manchin and Sinema. They sold our party and country out.

And democracy.

Let's not overdo it. Overturning democracy is when the GOP does stuff like restrict voting rights (certain actions, like banning vote harvesting, are bad, while others aren't really 'restricting' it) and tries to overturn the results of 2020 because they can't handle defeat. This is bad but not nearly so as overturning democracy.

This filibuster was used here to stop these voting rights acts from being enacted that would have preserved democracy.
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