2020 electoral college voting **live commentary thread**

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What is the actual process on January 6th, when Pence counts the votes in a joint session ?

Assuming a 52-48 GOP Senate and a 222-213 DEM House.

I know there can be objections, but is it actually Pence who decides what is counted and what not, or do the members of Congress also have an influence ?

Can they veto Pence if he picks the alternative Trump electors to be counted instead of the actual electors for Biden ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Count_Act

The Senate will be 51-48 because Perdue's term will have expired by Jan. 6 so his seat will be vacant. The Georgia runoffs surely will not be certified in time for the electoral vote counting.

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MAGA world continues to drink the Kool-Aid:

https://twitter.com/DrivelCivil/status/1338572298140336129

This must be why Trump shares on PredictIt are rising again. Too bad for them no official authority granted any approval to the "dueling electors" so it amounts to some private citizen crackpots who signed a piece of paper saying Trump won.

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MAGA world continues to drink the Kool-Aid:

https://twitter.com/DrivelCivil/status/1338572298140336129

This will continue for years and years. After January 6, they'll claim a last-minute court case will overturn the electors in the critical states. After January 20, there will be a never-ending stream of lawsuits claiming that Biden's presidency is unlawful, and that we're just one court case away from overturning the election. Also, please donate to our legal fund.

It's amazing how Trump keeps playing this game yet never (at least, not yet) cross the line into open insurrection which would get him arrested or exiled.

I'm still thinking it's a realistic possibility that at some point Trump really drinks his own Kool-Aid, takes his arguments to their logical conclusion, and tries to start a coup (or armed rebellion after he's out of office).

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MAGA world continues to drink the Kool-Aid:

https://twitter.com/DrivelCivil/status/1338572298140336129

I read the article linked by that user and they are relying on an obscure interpretation of the Electoral Count Act in the event dueling electors are sent to Congress, but the most common interpretation is that the governor's electors take priority anyway in the event that Congress is deadlocked.

I have trouble understanding how the Republican electors in those states are actually "dueling" when they have zero official sanction whatsoever. In 1876 there were state officials taking opposite sides in the "dueling electors".

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More lunacy from the state of Texas...

https://twitter.com/AlexSamuelsx5/status/1338604149169156099?s=20

So what does this mean exactly? Seems like the exact thing the D hacks here insisted would never ever happen.

Stop dooming about this, the "state legislator coup" was always legally dubious since all states have laws to appoint the electors by popular vote winner, and if it were to be done, it had to be done before the electors actually voted. You can now proceed to doom about fake "dueling electors" and the Electoral Count Act instead.

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More lunacy from the state of Texas...

https://twitter.com/AlexSamuelsx5/status/1338604149169156099?s=20

So what does this mean exactly? Seems like the exact thing the D hacks here insisted would never ever happen.

Stop dooming about this, the "state legislator coup" was always legally dubious since all states have laws to appoint the electors by popular vote winner, and if it were to be done, it had to be done before the electors actually voted. You can now proceed to doom about fake "dueling electors" and the Electoral Count Act instead.

Everything done by Trump while president is legally dubious, and that has stopped none of it. And I asked a question as on the surface this is what it seems--if you want to cover your ears and pretend nothing is wrong then go find some left wing Fox equivalent.

The vote by the Texas electors is pure grandstanding. They have no right to compel the PA/WI/MI/GA legislatures to do anything. Trump demanded the same thing of these legislatures for week and they didn't do what he asked, and now after the electors already voted the state legislator coup is dead as I and multiple others have pointed out.

If you want to doom, at least doom about something which has a nonzero chance of happening, such as weird Electoral Count Act shenanigans with these illegitimate "dueling electors."