Armenia—Azerbaijan Conflict Aftermath: Discord in Armenia

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The fact is, Azerbaijan has always been a better nation for our own geopolitical interests. It’s shocking people are finally realizing this. The only reason many don’t see this is because of the Armenian-American lobbyists, who (rightfully so given this is their people who are being massacred) have been doing their best to push the public against this.

Since Azerbaijan is almost a proxy for Turkey at this point, there's also the little matter of the Armenian genocide, which said lobbyists have done a good job of keeping in the American public conscious. It must be unfortunate to tied in knots trying to act according to your interests while maintaining your claimed moral high ground, since the moral high ground decidedly belongs to the Armenians/Russians on that. Might it be better to have a foreign policy that basically says, let's keep out of each others' business and make money together?

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The fact is, Azerbaijan has always been a better nation for our own geopolitical interests. It’s shocking people are finally realizing this. The only reason many don’t see this is because of the Armenian-American lobbyists, who (rightfully so given this is their people who are being massacred) have been doing their best to push the public against this.

Since Azerbaijan is almost a proxy for Turkey at this point, there's also the little matter of the Armenian genocide, which said lobbyists have done a good job of keeping in the American public conscious. It must be unfortunate to tied in knots trying to act according to your interests while maintaining your claimed moral high ground, since the moral high ground decidedly belongs to the Armenians/Russians on that. Might it be better to have a foreign policy that basically says, let's keep out of each others' business and make money together?

Well…I wouldn’t really give that much of a high ground to Armenia considering their own cleansings of Azeris, both sides honestly were equally awful during the Nagorno Karabakh wars and I stand by that unless someone can correct me on if I’m wrong.
Armenia DOES have the moral high ground on the Genocide 100 years ago so I concede that.

Anyways why do YOU care? You of all people shouldn’t give a flying f**k about genocides seeing as you are a CCP shill.

You advocated that the US should support Azerbaijan in this conflict, and I'm answering why the US would have a lot of trouble doing so. The Armenian lobbyists you mention are not making stuff up like you insinuate, they're just reminding everyone of the Armenian genocide and then naturally public support shifts away from Turkey/Azerbaijan. As the memory of the genocide likely underpins and drives the current conflict this is not unjustified.

Why do I have an interest in this? We have our own beef with Turkey and so I'd probably rather see Armenia win, but we're not going to get involved since it has nothing to do with China's core interests. Works out better that way to result in a consistent policy that doesn't force one to contort into pretzels to maintain logical consistency.

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The Armenian genocide happened 100 years ago, but there is still widespread denial, celebration of its perpetrators and strong anti-Armenian rhetoric. We are making a dangerous mistake if we think the Armenian genocide is something of the past that shouldn't affect our policies today.

Just as an example of how this issue can still resonate in the US, there were several blowups on TYT when Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian got into it about Armenia/Azerbaijan and the Armenian Genocide. For the people saying immigrants should leave the politics of the home country behind... yeah, not so much. Also abandoned is any pretense that Azerbaijan is not Turkey's proxy. I'm honestly surprised that Kasparian is still with TYT after that.

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The Armenian genocide happened 100 years ago, but there is still widespread denial, celebration of its perpetrators and strong anti-Armenian rhetoric. We are making a dangerous mistake if we think the Armenian genocide is something of the past that shouldn't affect our policies today.

Just as an example of how this issue can still resonate in the US, there were several blowups on TYT when Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian got into it about Armenia/Azerbaijan and the Armenian Genocide. For the people saying immigrants should leave the politics of the home country behind... yeah, not so much. Also abandoned is any pretense that Azerbaijan is not Turkey's proxy. I'm honestly surprised that Kasparian is still with TYT after that.

You're a China simp who watches TYT lol.

I don't watch TYT routinely, but knowing the backgrounds of the personalities, I went and searched on Youtube for how they reacted to Armenia/Azerbaijan to see if they would forget that they are now Americans and fight it out as Turkey vs Armenia. It did not disappoint. The point is bygones are most certainly not bygones with respect to the Armenian genocide.

Edit: To the point that the US should intervene in Azerbaijan's favor, it would be just as silly for the US to do so in order to bloody Russia's nose as it would be for China to intervene in Armenia's favor to bloody Turkey's nose.