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Author Topic: Do you actually care about anything?  (Read 1985 times)
Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

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« on: October 23, 2020, 06:10:22 PM »

I really only care about owning Le Drumpf. That's why I'm fine if the material conditions that led to Trump don't change and possibly get worse. As long as I can #vote and #resist with my good friends the Krassensteins on Twitter, that's all I need.
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2020, 09:13:12 PM »

I really only care about owning Le Drumpf. That's why I'm fine if the material conditions that led to Trump don't change and possibly get worse. As long as I can #vote and #resist with my good friends the Krassensteins on Twitter, that's all I need.

This is like a step removed from the economic anxiety meme. The "material conditions" that led to Trump were racism, sexism, and xenophobia.

Fascism always rises from times of terrible economic conditions. In America's case, one of the worst times of income inequality in the history of the modern world. The racism, sexism, and xenophobia are awful but that's what happens when stupid people don't understand why their lives suck and their ideology consists entirely of lashing out at who they get told to blame.
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2020, 09:35:09 PM »



American has ALWAYS been extremely racist/sexist/xenophobic, so this notion that income inequality caused that is ridiculous.



Frankly, the claim that economic circumstances turns people racist is extremely classist.

Obviously. America was never great. But to pretend Donald Trump was an aberration in the fabric of the universe that will be fixed in January 2021 is astoundingly ignorant of history.
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2020, 10:07:19 PM »


American has ALWAYS been extremely racist/sexist/xenophobic, so this notion that income inequality caused that is ridiculous.



Frankly, the claim that economic circumstances turns people racist is extremely classist.

Obviously. America was never great. But to pretend Donald Trump was an aberration in the fabric of the universe that will be fixed in January 2021 is astoundingly ignorant of history.

I never said anything like that... don’t put words in my mouth.

We both agree Trump is a symptom, we just disagree what he’s a symptom of. You think it’s because of economic factors, I think it’s because of racism and culture issues.

Racism and culture issues can't be decoupled from economic factors. LBJ said it best. Convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, and he won't notice you picking his pocket. Hell, give him someone to look down on and he'll empty his pockets for you.
Rich people don't really care about cultural issues. That's why Target sells BLM merch and literal cartoon villain Jeff Bezos gets an award from the HRC and calls the Seattle hockey rink the "Climate Pledge Arena" even though he himself is responsible for a substantial amount of pollution and waste. They're only useful as a way to divide the plebs. What they mostly care about is maximizing profit.

Plus, American education is uniquely unbalanced and creates people who don't think critically. The poor high schools basically exist to herd the students into the military. Even if the teachers at trying their best they aren't going to have the environment to really get the most thorough understandings of diverse perspectives that tear down the walls of bigotry.
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2020, 10:38:03 PM »

American has ALWAYS been extremely racist/sexist/xenophobic, so this notion that income inequality caused that is ridiculous.



Frankly, the claim that economic circumstances turns people racist is extremely classist.

Obviously. America was never great. But to pretend Donald Trump was an aberration in the fabric of the universe that will be fixed in January 2021 is astoundingly ignorant of history.

I never said anything like that... don’t put words in my mouth.

We both agree Trump is a symptom, we just disagree what he’s a symptom of. You think it’s because of economic factors, I think it’s because of racism and culture issues.

Racism and culture issues can't be decoupled from economic factors. LBJ said it best. Convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, and he won't notice you picking his pocket. Hell, give him someone to look down on and he'll empty his pockets for you.
Rich people don't really care about cultural issues. That's why Target sells BLM merch and literal cartoon villain Jeff Bezos gets an award from the HRC and calls the Seattle hockey rink the "Climate Pledge Arena" even though he himself is responsible for a substantial amount of pollution and waste. They're only useful as a way to divide the plebs. What they mostly care about is maximizing profit.

Plus, American education is uniquely unbalanced and creates people who don't think critically. The poor high schools basically exist to herd the students into the military. Even if the teachers at trying their best they aren't going to have the environment to really get the most thorough understandings of diverse perspectives that tear down the walls of bigotry.

“Rich people don’t care about cultural issues” is probably the dumbest thing I ever heard

Yeah, nice rebuttal. I'll just assume you were unable to address the rest of my comment or the background to illustrate that point. Good night.
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2020, 11:03:49 PM »

I really only care about owning Le Drumpf. That's why I'm fine if the material conditions that led to Trump don't change and possibly get worse. As long as I can #vote and #resist with my good friends the Krassensteins on Twitter, that's all I need.

This is like a step removed from the economic anxiety meme. The "material conditions" that led to Trump were racism, sexism, and xenophobia.
And what are the reasons why people have those views? Is it just inherent to who they are?

Racism is passed down through generations of hate.

Agreed. Racism is genetic. Certain types of people are just predisposed to be prejudiced.

passed down = taught

Come on, you knew exactly what I meant.

And it's easier to teach when your community has been marginalized, poorly educated, and learns the social ladder is no longer as widely accessible as it was for prior generations before you. Gotta find somebody to blame, right? Smiley
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