2020 DNC thread (starts at 9pm ET)

[Ancestral Republican]

https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1295537708308115456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7...
Good stuff, DNC.

ing yikes.

What say you now, Western Democrat and Blairite?

[Ancestral Republican]

https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1295537708308115456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7...
Good stuff, DNC.

ing yikes.

What say you now, Western Democrat and Blairite?

Uh, not great? Why am I on the spot here?

https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1295537708308115456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7...
Good stuff, DNC.

ing yikes.

What say you now, Western Democrat and Blairite?

Well if he was on infowars then he shouldn’t be at the DNC. That’s a big yikes.

Why am I being called out lol

Didn't mean to call you guys out lol, I just saw that you were discussing the police portion on the previous page.

[Ancestral Republican]

Can't believe AOC complained about only getting sixty seconds when literally every speech has been 30-60 seconds.  I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she didn't know all the speeches were going to be similarly truncated.

I really wish Sara Gideon got more time.  Biden, Cunningham, Gideon are the three most important races.  Then again Cal Cunningham may not get to speak at all.

AOC didn't complain one bit. She even responded to the original report on twitter about it good-naturedly about making her minute count. She doesn't need the benefit of the doubt or excuses like she doesn't know what she is talking about. She's one of the savviest most informed politicians out there.

I thought she complained about only getting sixty seconds, but I may be mixing it up with thousands of people complaining on her behalf.

I do know she picked a fight with John Kasich earlier today, literally the least helpful thing imaginable.  That Republicans for Biden segment was executed pretty flawlessly.  I felt Kasich's speech had a bit much meandering mush, but that's what you get from him these days.

Kasich specifically talked about her first, and AOC was responding to it. And what she said was absolutely correct - Kasich is union busting and anti-choice, and has no business talking about what the future of the Democratic Party should be.

[Ancestral Republican]

Can everyone get off their soapbox and stop talking about the AOC/Kasich "feud"? No one here gives a sh*t and I'm enjoying this thread much more without it

It's literally just General MacArthur. He should give Ben Shapiro a call someday and they can vent together.

[Ancestral Republican]

Any bets on which of the 29 candidates won't feature?

So far we've had Booker, Gillibrand, Harris, Inslee, Klobuchar, Moulton, O'Rourke, Steyer and Yang. Buttigieg and Sanders are scheduled.

I would wager they won't be calling my mayor, but hopefully I'm wrong.

[Ancestral Republican]

Any bets on which of the 29 candidates won't feature?

So far we've had Booker, Gillibrand, Harris, Inslee, Klobuchar, Moulton, O'Rourke, Steyer and Yang. Buttigieg and Sanders are scheduled.

I would wager they won't be calling my mayor, but hopefully I'm wrong.

Surely not...a New Yorker who likes DeBlasio?

I'll admit his political instinct is garbage, but he's accomplished a lot that NYC has desperately needed. And I feel he's unfairly scapegoated quite a bit.

[Ancestral Republican]

Anyone remember when Bill Clinton wanted to lower the Medicare age from 65 to 55?

[Ancestral Republican]

Now, imagine of Sanders gave a speech like that four years ago.

Oh God.  I agree, but let's not open that can of worms.

If only evil healthcare man had done more than 30 rallies for a woman who hates him and most of the country didn't like, that would have pushed her over the edge.  #resist

[Ancestral Republican]

Day Two Schedule

Jimmy Carter has been added!

Very nice! I hope I won't be too sad to see how he is physically.


Now back to more "Bernie & 2016: The Atlas Story"

I'm on the verge of putting a few of the centrist bros on ignore.

[Ancestral Republican]

Aha! I was in Red Hook earlier today, just where Chuck was!

Dude I love Red Hook. Have you been to Baked?

[Ancestral Republican]

Aha! I was in Red Hook earlier today, just where Chuck was!

Dude I love Red Hook. Have you been to Baked?

No 😟 but now I’m interested

It's a coffee roastery/bakery - they have a traditional shop close to the waterfront, and a factory bread store near the cemetery. I highly recommend it!

[Ancestral Republican]

Wasn't Coons scheduled for the last day?

[Ancestral Republican]

Resisting the urge to post the Chuck E. Cheese logo

[Ancestral Republican]

So glad they had Ady on. Healthcare is one of the biggest crises and he has fought harder than anyone to fix it.

[Ancestral Republican]

I'm loving the Asian and indigenous representation.  Those are demographics which are often overlooked by Dems.

something something identity politics

Beet isn't wrong there. The Dems are making DAMN SURE not to miss anyone watching. White folks who are voting for Biden anyway don't care how many quote "people of color"/women are being shown. If you're running this campaign the more diversity you can expose the better.

I appreciate the support, but the Dems trying to pick up every last minority is just going to result in de facto ethnoparties in this country. The result of that is that every time the 'other' party in our 2-party system wins power, minorities will have no representation whatsoever. Our civil rights are always on the ballot in every election. It's better for everyone if minorities are more evenly split between the 2 parties & Democrats go after getting more white voters instead.

How about people just vote for the party that will improve their lives without you worrying about allocation of voters? For the majority of people of any race, that's the Democratic Party at the moment.

[Ancestral Republican]

I would be absolutely furious if Kshama Sawant, for instance, was allowed to speak for Washington.  So I can see where sawx is coming from.

That said, it doesn't really matter.  I have better face recognition than most and right now, having watched it ten minutes ago, I could probably only tell you like ten people from that entire segment.

Still heated that the candidate Bezos tried to buy couldn't beat her?

[Ancestral Republican]

Oh cool. Now we get to hear from the guy who lied to the UN about Iraq.

Bush paints pictures of veterans, so it's all good now.

[Ancestral Republican]

Who would have guessed ten years ago that an entire prime time lineup for the 2020 DNC would include the architects of the Iraq War and a tribute to John McCain haha

Who would've guessed ten years ago that 99% of Republican elected officials would become Donald Trump's bitches?

Given how the Tea Party acted and how disgustingly they treated Obama, it was only a matter of time.

[Ancestral Republican]

The Roses better get their pitchfork ready because Schlossberg is getting his JD now and he going to run for something.  

If his reason for running for office isn't solely dependent on his grandfather's name, then I'm all for his future political career.

Seems like he's been trying to get ready to run for office since he was 8. Another silver spoon prep kid at Harvard. Does he really care about some peasants in Nebraska who can't afford insulin?

The greatness of RFK/JFK was lightning in a bottle.. don't look for greatness from the family line just because of the last name.

[Ancestral Republican]

Who would have guessed ten years ago that an entire prime time lineup for the 2020 DNC would include the architects of the Iraq War and a tribute to John McCain haha

The Iraq War ended nearly a decade ago and has stopped being a relevant political issue. This is like suggesting having pro-Vietnam War people at a 1980s DNC is some big "gotcha."

Democrats have always liked John McCain when he wasn't in a general election against a Democrat. They liked him attacking George W. Bush in the 2000 primaries; Kerry considered him as a running mate at one point to troll the GOP; they liked him sticking it to evangelicals like Huckabee in 2008; and they liked him destroying Republicans' pitiful attempt to repeal the ACA in 2017.

Your comment that the Iraq War is irrelevent is sickening and an unmitigated insult to the civilians who lost their lives in a totally unncessary war based on the lies Powell held steadfast to. Demonstrating a sane foreign policy is critical if the Democrats are trying to show their moral superiority to the lunatic GOP. This did the exact opposite, and that does not bode well for Biden's approach in the Middle East.

It's Colin Powell, not Cheney or Kissinger 🙄

Why do generals and military people seem to get a pass for their involvement in America's actions? This culture of camo worship needs to stop.

[Ancestral Republican]

The Roses better get their pitchfork ready because Schlossberg is getting his JD now and he going to run for something.  

If his reason for running for office isn't solely dependent on his grandfather's name, then I'm all for his future political career.

Seems like he's been trying to get ready to run for office since he was 8. Another silver spoon prep kid at Harvard. Does he really care about some peasants in Nebraska who can't afford insulin?

The greatness of RFK/JFK was lightning in a bottle.. don't look for greatness from the family line just because of the last name.

Didn't say that's what I'm doing, you'd have to talk to MillennialModerate to get that kind of response.

But if Schlossberg - when he runs for office - actually offers serious & compelling arguments as to why he'd be the best candidate to hold the office he's running for, then I'm not gonna oppose him purely on the basis of his name.

Compare that to the primary challenge that Markey is receiving from JKIII, who hasn't made a clear case as to why he thinks Markey is out-of-touch with Massachusetts & its values, hasn't provided any real argument for why he'd be a better Senator for Massachusetts than Markey, & is seemingly only banking on his name-recognition & Camelot nostalgia to win him this primary so he can use the Senate seat to elevate his profile to presidential material-status.

All of this is to say that if Schlossberg were to - like JKIII - base his campaign on the basis of who his family is, then I'd oppose him for doing so. But if he were to actually show & prove that he deserves an opportunity to hold elected office regardless of who his family happens to be, then I wouldn't oppose him because he still happens to be a member of that particular family anyway.

I was agreeing with you, my comments were more directed at the person you were responding to. But yeah you're absolutely right, if he actually has compelling ideas and proves himself as a leader, I wouldn't be opposed.

[Ancestral Republican]

Who would have guessed ten years ago that an entire prime time lineup for the 2020 DNC would include the architects of the Iraq War and a tribute to John McCain haha

The Iraq War ended nearly a decade ago and has stopped being a relevant political issue. This is like suggesting having pro-Vietnam War people at a 1980s DNC is some big "gotcha."

Democrats have always liked John McCain when he wasn't in a general election against a Democrat. They liked him attacking George W. Bush in the 2000 primaries; Kerry considered him as a running mate at one point to troll the GOP; they liked him sticking it to evangelicals like Huckabee in 2008; and they liked him destroying Republicans' pitiful attempt to repeal the ACA in 2017.

Your comment that the Iraq War is irrelevent is sickening and an unmitigated insult to the civilians who lost their lives in a totally unncessary war based on the lies Powell held steadfast to. Demonstrating a sane foreign policy is critical if the Democrats are trying to show their moral superiority to the lunatic GOP. This did the exact opposite, and that does not bode well for Biden's approach in the Middle East.

It's Colin Powell, not Cheney or Kissinger 🙄

Why do generals and military people seem to get a pass for their involvement in America's actions? This culture of camo worship needs to stop.

I don't give him a pass and I don't like him, but to act as though he's anywhere near as evil as the people I mentioned is disingenuous. A big tent is a good thing, so long as it does not cover the most rabid warmongers and ideologues. Powell is neither of those things, just a fossil who suburban over 50s like.

That's fair.

[Ancestral Republican]

"Young climate activists" better not be the Sunrise Movement.



They have absolutely no place in the Democratic Party.

Still triggered by the climate teens I see. This is the moment I put you on ignore, your incessant whining about anything left of Bloomberg in the Democratic Party is tiring, obsessive, and contributes nothing to the discussion. Grow up.

[Ancestral Republican]

Gabrielle Giffords, she has sacrificed much. Very upsetting.


(Ugh why does Eilish need to be here, she's going to ruin the moment soon)

How else will Democrats get the 14 year old vote?

14 year olds need to vote early and often.

[Ancestral Republican]

This convention is full of good, articulate speeches, by educated clear-thinking adults.  I fully expect the RNC to be a total carnival act of dirtbags like Gaetz and fringe Q Anon people.  I'm sure that's in line with the Republican strategy since they've written off college educated voters anyway, but I think they're underestimating how much people want to return to normalcy.

Nick Hapsburg Sandmann is one of the foremost political thinkers of America. You take that back.