The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

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States like Nevada and Minnesota are in play...

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States like Nevada and Minnesota are in play...

That is the worst post you can find? It's unlikely in the current environment, but suggesting a Clinton +2 state trending rightwards could be competitive does not deserve a post here.

Lol Nevada is not trending rightwards. Nearly every state wide office is held by Democrats, it hasn’t voted R for president in over a decade. Not to mention that polling constantly underestimates Democrats. Also in this political environment where Biden is up by 8-10 points it isn’t competitive at all.

Not to mention that the usual way for a GOP victory in the state is to Win Washoe by a substantial margin and keep it close in and get at least 45% in Clark. Given the Trends in those countries (Washoe becoming a tossup/tilt D county and clark becoming a Likely/Safe D county that is very difficult, barring some extraordinary circumstances.

 To suggest that it is in play, is the definition of absurd and ignorant. NV maybe somewhat close margin wise, but in terms of likelyhood of flipping it is almost zero. NV is fools gold for Republicans.

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What’s important is the likelihood, the final 2-4 points needed for victory is almost impossible to get given the political realities of the state. I’m not saying it’s going to be a landslide margin, but its a tough nut to crack for the GOP, and it will stay that way for the foreseeable future.

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Just stop saying it hasn't trended rightward ffs.

Trump got a lower share of the vote than Romney. Get back to me when a Republican gets more than 45% of the vote there

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Black people cannot be racist.

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I motion we rename the thread.

Leave it to public school teachers to be dramatic af.

Maybe if we were given an iota of respect and paid more than 50% of what engineers are paid, we wouldn’t have to be.

Maybe, if they want to be paid more, then they should be engineers?  Take really hard classes in school for four years, operate under very strict project timelines, and and spend all day on CAD?  instead of, y'know, spending all their time with kids, and getting 2 weeks off at Christmas + the summer, and having virtually no accountability in their positions?

I second the motion.

Leave it to public school teachers to be dramatic af.

Thirded

Fourthed

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Kate Brown and Orval Faubus are peas in a pod. Both radical extremists (and Democrats).

Dwight Eisenhower and Donald Trump are indeed moderate centrists.

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The radical left of course sides with Liz Cheney.
Hey Democrats you can have Liz Cheney she is a progressive anyway.

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The fact that 44% of Americans want 4 more years of this absolute hell is simply astounding.

It is, but it's the country we're living in. I've grown to accept it and be numb to it. I always thought  that 44% is actually a very realistic popular vote percentage for Trump performing at his worst. He shouldn't even be getting 1% in polls ever, but alas, to quote his apathetic ass: "it is what it is."

Yes I know many of you will not find anything absurd or ignorant with that post, but I don't care.

I know you don't care but what's your reasoning for this? I don't really get it, obviously.

I think it's pretty gross to suggest that the Republican candidate in a situation like this *should* be getting zero support.
I posted that here mainly to vent my contrarianism about it without having to actually write anything substantial.
I understand that you are much more angry, nihilistic and pessimistic about the current status of the USA than I am, so we'll have to agree to disagree.

Could you clarify why you think its “gross”. Imo theirs nothing gross about disliking a political party.

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Pros:
- makes the ticket possibly the most demographically-representative ticket in history

Except all of the all-white tickets when America was a white country.

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Not to be morbid, but does anyone else think Biden signed his own death warrant with the Kamala pick?

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You beat me to writing precisely that. Even if I die protecting my family, at least I'm sending a half dozen or so to their doom. People who don't respect property forfeit their right to life.

No. No. No. No. No.
This is absolutely, totally wrong and I will not apologize for saying this.

I'm sorry, but your life ends the moment you set fire to my house and threaten the life of my family. This is called self-defense. It's not exactly a new concept.

That’s completely fair, but he said if you don’t respect property you forfeit your right to life. Respect property can refer to a wide spectrum of things. Spraying graffiti on someones car isn’t respectful of property, should someone who does that be killed?

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You beat me to writing precisely that. Even if I die protecting my family, at least I'm sending a half dozen or so to their doom. People who don't respect property forfeit their right to life.

No. No. No. No. No.
This is absolutely, totally wrong and I will not apologize for saying this.

I'm sorry, but your life ends the moment you set fire to my house and threaten the life of my family. This is called self-defense. It's not exactly a new concept.

The castle doctrine doesn’t exist in Europe

And look what happened circa 1932-1945.....

You beat me to writing precisely that. Even if I die protecting my family, at least I'm sending a half dozen or so to their doom. People who don't respect property forfeit their right to life.

No. No. No. No. No.
This is absolutely, totally wrong and I will not apologize for saying this.

I'm sorry, but your life ends the moment you set fire to my house and threaten the life of my family. This is called self-defense. It's not exactly a new concept.

That’s completely fair, but he said if you don’t respect property you forfeit your right to life. Respect property can refer to a wide spectrum of things. Spraying graffiti on someones car isn’t respectful of property, should someone who does that be killed?

I'm not talking about shooting a black kid for stealing a bike. I'm talking about a mob of white purple haired freaks showing up and setting fire to an occupied home. That literally happened, and when the fire trucks showed up, they blocked them from getting near the house. A police officer and his family were nearly killed.

Yeah, if someone is literally setting fire to your house, I’m pretty sure you have a right to fight back and kill them. I hope no one is actually opposed to that, but saying “you forfeit your life if you disrespect property” is a pretty broad statement, and I feel that you should react with appropriate force depending on the situation. Someone smashing your windows in and stealing your stuff should be treated with more force than someone someone egging your car.

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This still doesn't explain why flyover country WWC people deserve a tax cut.

I mean of course, I would support my own interests. Quite frankly, I also never get this sympathy for these rural racists in Appalachia, I never understood why we must pander to them? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't think I am.

So we should be subsidizing WV racists??

What do you mean by that? We should just ignore and mistreat people and let them suffer just because of they place they live? That isn’t right, come on.

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I honestly will never understand the absolute visceral hatred some Democrats have for WV, not even the state, but the people who live their. Sure, I understand not liking the way they vote, I’m certainly not a fan of it and I don’t think Democrats can really win over their votes anymore (and frankly should focus on more friendly areas, i.e suburbs) but the contempt for people and voters is pretty over the top.

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Arguably the absolute best poster on this site.

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Wrong thread, this belongs here: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=339441.0

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If Hennepin County (or some other county I move to) ever adopts 24 hour early voting I'm totally going to go to a hardcore/emo show (in a post-Covid election) and then vote right afterwards.

I hope you go to the polls dressed like a 2005-era emo.

We have to keep Hot Topic alive somehow.

I HAVE NEVER SHOPPED AT HOT TOPIC IN MY LIFE.

Are you one of those dudes who insists that there's a difference between emo and goth even though no one else can tell them apart?

Ok this is enough, stop bullying people on this forum. Quite frankly, everyone has had enough.

Uh, are you trying to tone police on the Internet? Not the type of thing that usually works.

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It was bad when Mitch McConnell said he would cut funding to "blue" states, and it's bad to say you want to hurt "red" states. You people realize there are people of every political persuasion in every state, right? Even assuming it's okay to make your political opponents suffer, you're going to punish people for their neighbors' political beliefs?

When bigots and authoritarians are deprived of economic and political power, that's a good thing. Yes, I want Trump's supporters to suffer, as they've demonstrated themselves to be completely devoid of decency or civility. Sorry. I would suggest you direct your criticisms at them. Perhaps they can improve their judgement, climb out of the gutter, and make themselves worthy of respect. Otherwise, I think they're trash, and they'll get no sympathy from me.

Trump got nearly as many votes in California as he did in Texas. Punishing entire states because of how a plurality of their population voted for someone is beyond stupid. You would also hurt millions of Democrats who live in those states just to get one over the other side.

No, genius, that's how in works in the real world. Let's strike some chords on the world's tiniest violin for all of those non-bigoted Southerners and Germans who paid the price when the Confederacy and the Nazis lost their wars against civilized humanity. Should we have refrained from crushing them? Absolutely not. Maybe you should expend your energy convincing the rural white majority not to make deplorable decisions that may ultimately hurt innocent residents of their regions. I doubt they'll listen, but it's worth a shot.

Terrible person alert.

I can't wait to crush him with my fascist boots!

WTF is that original post (from R.P)? If anything, wanting to punish entire states and regions because you don’t like how they voted is fascism/authoritarianism.

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This is a commitment to boycott red precincts once we have full 2020 data. Because obviously some of the precinct data could be wonky due to mail-in issues, precincts which were Clinton-Trump are not included.
Precincts which voted for Trump twice are full of traitors to the American Republic, full stop.
They had their chance to redeem themselves, few did. Therefore, it is imperative to use our dollars as our votes when possible. Businesses in red precincts must not be supported when possible. These traitors hate the country, hate the people of America, and must not be rewarded with dollars for their crimes against humanity.
They have screwed my generation for years to come, at the very least I want to be a tiny part of poor financial situations in these regions. An eye for an eye is sometimes the only way when these rabid maniacs refuse to disarm first. Additionally, I will never donate to any charity cause towards predominantly red (+60% both times) areas no matter how bad it is. They started it, it’s time to finish what has begun.

I call on all true Americans to boycott businesses in red precincts when possible (obviously if you live in rural North Dakota this may not be doable at times), and to refuse any attempt at helping traitors without retribution.
For non-Atlas users, I would say to apply this logic to red states (mainly those with an over 10% margin both times) because that’s easier for people to remember.

It’s time to stop being nice to those who hate your guts. They spit on us, claim foul whenever they are fact checked, and claim the “libruhl elites are oppresin’ our folk!” Let’s show them what that really means, for the sake of our children’s future, god bless America and all Americans.

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Typical MATTROSE94:

Iran should definitely invade and take over Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Greece, Southern Italy (Sicily, Sardinia, Calabria, Campania, and Apulia), Cyprus, UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, Yemen, and the Shi’a majority areas of Saudi Arabia. Also, Palestine should take over Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, Libya, Algeria, the Sunni majority areas of Saudi Arabia, Malta, Spain, and Portugal.

Using MATTROSE94 is cheating.

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Why do some users sound like they browse either r/socialism or r/communism?

Because some probably do.

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Why do some users sound like they browse either r/socialism or r/communism?

Because some probably do.

This should not be surprising. Furthermore, is this your supposed rebuttal to this factual statement?

well, if it was factual, you would consider it revisionism.

Nope, the Soviet Union actually throughout its history viewed the housing of its citizenry in what was mainly flats to fit one of their selling points to the people. It was under privatization and lack of public investment that homelessness skyrocketed in the 90s under the force of shock therapy.

Out of all the things the Soviet Union did, denying something that most western academics found to be true is kinda galaxy brain, no?

Sure, technically there were zero homeless people in the USSR, but that’s because the government mandated that everyone live in cramped, derelict, apartments shared with 2-7 other families, not because it was some prosperous utopia.

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Gun control has always been racist.

This is true.

This is my main issue with pro-gun leftists claiming to want to improve peoples' lives. You can't improve peoples' lives, if some deranged lunatic shoots everyone dead. Like haven't we seen enough mass shootings to realize maybe...just maybe....guns don't actually belong in the hands of everyday people. Oh, alas, it'll probably take another 10 or 20 years for people to actually come to their senses, this is the single issue that frustrates me so much, because the thinking on it is just so disconnected from reality on the part of the gun advocates, oh well.

Guns do belong in the hands of the people, but anyways, in a country like the United States, taking away all guns is just never going to happen, mass confiscation, given the number of firearms in the United States, is near impossible no matter how much some people may want it. And getting past that, keeping guns out of the hands of the population isn’t necessarily going to stop shootings/violent crime etc...

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Gun control has always been racist.

This is true.

This is my main issue with pro-gun leftists claiming to want to improve peoples' lives. You can't improve peoples' lives, if some deranged lunatic shoots everyone dead. Like haven't we seen enough mass shootings to realize maybe...just maybe....guns don't actually belong in the hands of everyday people. Oh, alas, it'll probably take another 10 or 20 years for people to actually come to their senses, this is the single issue that frustrates me so much, because the thinking on it is just so disconnected from reality on the part of the gun advocates, oh well.

Guns do belong in the hands of the people, but anyways, in a country like the United States, taking away all guns is just never going to happen, mass confiscation, given the number of firearms in the United States, is near impossible no matter how much some people may want it. And getting past that, keeping guns out of the hands of the population isn’t necessarily going to stop shootings/violent crime etc...

So defeatist to say you can never do it so you might as well not try.

Obviously the first step is to drastically curtail the number of guns produced and sold, as that is out of control. If you're in a hole, stop digging.

Then we can start to talk about banning the ownership of the types of guns that have been used to massacre innocent people over the past four decades.

The overwhelming majority of gun violence is committed with handguns. Do you intend to ban the ownership of pistols?

Production first, and then ownership.

Ridiculous. You want to shut down an entire industry and forcibly confiscate material from hundreds of millions of people? And do you think criminals and terrorists who want to commit mass murder wouldn’t stop at nothing to gain access to weapons through illegal means, that they would allow government enforcement and laws to stop them?

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The Asylum’s namesake clearly doesn’t want the thread to be renamed.

Moderate Republican from the Midwest with blue collar AND suburban appeal? Yeah he easily destroys Bernie. The swings among suburbs and college whites Hillary got against Trump don’t happen. Rural and WWC trends continue sharply against the Dems. Minorities, who were never enthusiastic about Bernie, swing away from the Dems and have low turnout. Kasich successfully paints Sanders as a radical socialist; Sanders embraces this image, repeatedly doing things like his infamous 60 Minutes interview doubling down on his Castro praise. The result is electoral disaster, with Kasich winning every state it’s remotely possible for Republicans to win.

Imagine thinking a Republican would win Virginia or Oregon, lol.