CPAC speaker calls for genocide of trans people

[Vice President Christian Man]

I’m not trans but this is a terrifying thought

[Vice President Christian Man]

I think what some Republicans fail to grasp is that they are also worthy of dignity and respect despite their gender/sexual orientation. And even if forced de transition was the end goal which is what it seemed like he implied, how could this be enforced in a non-authoritarian manner?

[Vice President Christian Man]

This Cpac is another Fox news whom is being sued they aren't reaching out to anybody but partisans

They have country music singers how is that gonna get blk vote, they need blk vote because they need to win PA, MI, and WI blue states

Bush W and McCain went to NAACP

The reason republicans lost in 2020 in PA/MI/WI is because they didn’t get enough of the white vote.

No it’s because Biden was able to appeal to them better than Clinton was. Many of these voters supported Obama and there was a better argument that Biden would be a third term of Obama than H. Clinton who seemed like she would’ve been a third term of Bill which didn’t play well because of NAFTA and immigration concerns.

[Vice President Christian Man]

This Cpac is another Fox news whom is being sued they aren't reaching out to anybody but partisans

They have country music singers how is that gonna get blk vote, they need blk vote because they need to win PA, MI, and WI blue states

Bush W and McCain went to NAACP

The reason republicans lost in 2020 in PA/MI/WI is because they didn’t get enough of the white vote.

No it’s because Biden was able to appeal to them better than Clinton was. Many of these voters supported Obama and there was a better argument that Biden would be a third term of Obama than H. Clinton who seemed like she would’ve been a third term of Bill which didn’t play well because of NAFTA and immigration concerns.

No. Biden didn't "win back" many WWC Obama-Trump voters.  If anything he did even worse than Clinton in many of those places. It was suburbanites, typically Romney-Johnson voters, that swung those states to Biden.

That  may have been the case in Michigan (plus the people in Flint who abstained in 2016) and maybe Wisconsin (Biden seemed to do better in WOW) but he won plenty of Obama-Trump voters in Pennsylvania.

[Vice President Christian Man]

This Cpac is another Fox news whom is being sued they aren't reaching out to anybody but partisans

They have country music singers how is that gonna get blk vote, they need blk vote because they need to win PA, MI, and WI blue states

Bush W and McCain went to NAACP

The reason republicans lost in 2020 in PA/MI/WI is because they didn’t get enough of the white vote.

No it’s because Biden was able to appeal to them better than Clinton was. Many of these voters supported Obama and there was a better argument that Biden would be a third term of Obama than H. Clinton who seemed like she would’ve been a third term of Bill which didn’t play well because of NAFTA and immigration concerns.

No. Biden didn't "win back" many WWC Obama-Trump voters.  If anything he did even worse than Clinton in many of those places. It was suburbanites, typically Romney-Johnson voters, that swung those states to Biden.

That  may have been the case in Michigan (plus the people in Flint who abstained in 2016) and maybe Wisconsin (Biden seemed to do better in WOW) but he won plenty of Obama-Trump voters in Pennsylvania.

Where were they? From what I see, most of the heavily WWC counties in Pennsylvania that swung toward Trump in 2016 swung even further toward him in 2020. Especially in the Appalachian parts. Biden's performance in Appalachia (excluding educated liberal enclaves like Asheville and Morgantown) was probably the worst of any Democrat ever. Worse than McGovern and worse than HRC.

Erie, & Northhampton which I think has WWC areas. He also improved by quite a bit in both Luzerne & Lakwanna counties.

[Vice President Christian Man]

This Cpac is another Fox news whom is being sued they aren't reaching out to anybody but partisans

They have country music singers how is that gonna get blk vote, they need blk vote because they need to win PA, MI, and WI blue states

Bush W and McCain went to NAACP

The reason republicans lost in 2020 in PA/MI/WI is because they didn’t get enough of the white vote.

No it’s because Biden was able to appeal to them better than Clinton was. Many of these voters supported Obama and there was a better argument that Biden would be a third term of Obama than H. Clinton who seemed like she would’ve been a third term of Bill which didn’t play well because of NAFTA and immigration concerns.

No. Biden didn't "win back" many WWC Obama-Trump voters.  If anything he did even worse than Clinton in many of those places. It was suburbanites, typically Romney-Johnson voters, that swung those states to Biden.

That  may have been the case in Michigan (plus the people in Flint who abstained in 2016) and maybe Wisconsin (Biden seemed to do better in WOW) but he won plenty of Obama-Trump voters in Pennsylvania.

Where were they? From what I see, most of the heavily WWC counties in Pennsylvania that swung toward Trump in 2016 swung even further toward him in 2020. Especially in the Appalachian parts. Biden's performance in Appalachia (excluding educated liberal enclaves like Asheville and Morgantown) was probably the worst of any Democrat ever. Worse than McGovern and worse than HRC.

Erie, & Northhampton which I think has WWC areas. He also improved by quite a bit in both Luzerne & Lakwanna counties.

Can you be sure those were Obama-Trump voters though? Based on the percentages, it seems like they were mostly third party voters (or maybe just didn't vote at all) in 2016.

It's possible but in the last two Biden improved by 5 points in both. I just find it hard to believe that there's that many third  party-Biden voters

[Vice President Christian Man]

Mega thread.

Nope. You can't hide how revolting the modern right is by pushing it all into a mega thread so you can just ignore it.

I'll echo DaleCooper from the other day, if democrats moderated on social issues, they'd have a supermajority trifecta

Republicans: "Trans people need to be killed."

You: "Wow, Democrats really need to moderate on this issue."

Trans Activists: "If people don't get my pronouns right I need to violently correct them. Also give kids puberty blockers/hormones before they can make an informed decision and allow biological men to compete on women's sports teams"

You: "Wow, Democrat really need to be more aggressive on this issue."

There are people which I think are overly represented on the internet who will harass/bully/cancel whoever doesn’t respect their pronouns etc. even if it’s a simple misunderstanding but in my limited experience the only thing most trans people want is to be respected and treated equally. I just can’t see how a few bad apples makes it okay to demonize an entire group of people, especially since most of them have had hard lives to begin with. I think more people are fearful because of incidents such as the Loudon County bathroom assault which (btw the perpetrator is straight and just happened to be perverted) ruin a movement (while Dems deserved to lose imo for the way they handled it in the first place).. We’ve seen this with any culture war issue, activists will take a tragedy or horrible person and paint the entire movement as evil or demented or whatever when that’s not the case.