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DaleCooper
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« on: June 20, 2024, 12:52:23 AM »

But he has improved on persuasion if polling is to be believed. He's getting 20+% with black voters, for one. And he doesn't even need young voters to vote for him; he merely needs them to not vote for Biden out of apathy or anger over Gaza.

I can’t believe I’m saying this but you’re right. It’s like everyone forgets Biden only won in 2020 by barely winning WI/GA/AZ by the skin of his teeth, a fraction of a percentage point in each. In fact, he won them all combined by less than Trump won the rust belt trio in 2016, and that was treated as an absurdly close fluke! Yet he won the decisive states that year by a combined margin greater than that with which Biden won the decisive states in 2020, making the latter actually a closer election! If Biden loses ANY ground at all, he is FINISHED. This has ALWAYS been true. He NEEDED to be able to EXPAND his map. Any talk of simply holding, let alone losing, ground yet somehow still winning has always been extremely risky and dangerous and implausible. Yet now GA and AZ look gone and WI is the state that polled Hillary +9 and Biden +17 shortly before the last couple elections and STILL Trump is now outright LEADING there for pretty much the first time ever! It is INSANE that Biden’s team thinks they can rely on any of these states to vote for him again! Especially when polling is FAR WORSE now!

The ONLY conclusion a remotely logical and objective person can reach at this time is that Biden looks to be Kentucky Fried Chicken. I’m sorry, I hate it as much or more than any of you. But it is the reality. If you want to change it, you must first accept it. And if nothing else, bracing yourself now might make November slightly less painful.
Yup, I've been saying this for many months now.

The "demographics is destiny" theory is nonsense anyway. Minorities are clearly moving towards the GOP as cultural issues become more salient. COVID broke a lot of peoples brains and wokeness is extremely unpopular outside of white college campuses.

He didn't say demographics are destiny, he pointed out that the growing parts of the swing states are very blue and the dying parts of the swing states are very red.
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DaleCooper
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2024, 02:19:01 AM »

I would absolutely never call Wisconsin "fool's gold" for Republicans, but I have said before that I think Wisconsin's future looks more like Minnesota than it does any other state, especially one like Iowa.

Johnson definitely would've lost if Democrats took the race seriously. They didn't even need a different candidate. Barnes would've won had he been given the necessary support and funding.
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