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DaleCooper
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« on: December 05, 2022, 05:07:23 PM »

Love him or hate him like I do, Trump is undeniably charismatic. When I saw him in person at a rally early in the 2016 campaign (I initially went for the lols), I walked out knowing that this guy was a legitimate contender for the presidency then.

As always, I think 'charismatic' is not quite the right word. Trump inspires as much revulsion as adulation. His presence is polarizing - few people walk away from Trump saying, "I really disagree with him, but he seems like a good person." Trump appeals to those drawn to evil, and weak-minded fools. He is a vile and persuasive huckster, but I think Obama, W, and Clinton all had far more charisma than he does.
Anyone who gets elected President has some level of talent and skill. Just how it is.

I disagree.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2022, 05:11:03 PM »

Love him or hate him like I do, Trump is undeniably charismatic. When I saw him in person at a rally early in the 2016 campaign (I initially went for the lols), I walked out knowing that this guy was a legitimate contender for the presidency then.

As always, I think 'charismatic' is not quite the right word. Trump inspires as much revulsion as adulation. His presence is polarizing - few people walk away from Trump saying, "I really disagree with him, but he seems like a good person." Trump appeals to those drawn to evil, and weak-minded fools. He is a vile and persuasive huckster, but I think Obama, W, and Clinton all had far more charisma than he does.
Anyone who gets elected President has some level of talent and skill. Just how it is.

I disagree.
Really? Name someone who got elected and was talent less?

Dubya. Trump.
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DaleCooper
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2022, 05:14:20 PM »

Love him or hate him like I do, Trump is undeniably charismatic. When I saw him in person at a rally early in the 2016 campaign (I initially went for the lols), I walked out knowing that this guy was a legitimate contender for the presidency then.

As always, I think 'charismatic' is not quite the right word. Trump inspires as much revulsion as adulation. His presence is polarizing - few people walk away from Trump saying, "I really disagree with him, but he seems like a good person." Trump appeals to those drawn to evil, and weak-minded fools. He is a vile and persuasive huckster, but I think Obama, W, and Clinton all had far more charisma than he does.
Anyone who gets elected President has some level of talent and skill. Just how it is.

I disagree.
Really? Name someone who got elected and was talent less?

Dubya. Trump.
W was a seriously talented retail politician. Even Democrats admitted that. Trump is talented at branding and showmanship. MAGA was a powerful slogan that worked pretty dang well for a while. I disagree completely that they had no talent.

When the electorate is as dumb as it is, having no talent can actually be an asset.
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