NYT- President Biden considering sending thousands of troops to Eastern Europe and Baltics

[DaleCooper]

Lol, what exactly is the isolationists' problem here? If Putin tries to invade Eastern Europe or the Baltics, then we're already in WWIII and it's best to try and kill as many of his guys as we can before they get too far into the free world. If Biden was sending our boys into disputed Ukrainian territory, then that would be a totally different story, but he's sending them to reinforce our allies in the face of an aggressive rogue nation. If Russia starts WWIII because we aren't willing to let them exterminate our allies without a fight, then that's Russia's fault, not ours! We have a military, it's not always evil to use it.

[DaleCooper]

Why are so many people babbling about Biden sending our military to war with Russia? Stationing troops in allied nations due to belligerence on the part of a sh-thole country like Russia is not escalation nor is it an act of war. Even if Russia never invades NATO, it's important that we make clear to the Russians and our own allies that we're willing to stand by our commitments.

[DaleCooper]

We should withdraw from NATO, yes. Our own country is on the verge of collapse, we're having supply shortages, on the verge of food shortages, and our healthcare system is a mess.

And leaving NATO would fix these problems... how exactly?

Because apparently we spend too much on the Military.  And we can somehow dramatically shift money from the Military to the social programs.

People seem to believe that this country has one big treasure chest full of money and it gets spent on a first-come-first-serve basis, like all that money would've gone towards universal healthcare if the military hadn't come and stolen all of it first. America's social failings will not be solved by abolishing America's defensive spending.

[DaleCooper]

Okay, none of us want Biden to launch nuclear weapons over Ukraine. We've gotten that virtue signal out of the way. What does that have to do with making it clear through a show of military force that our NATO allies (i.e. not Ukraine) are defended?

[DaleCooper]

Biden is about to drag us into the 3rd World War and red avatars talking about technicalities lmao

If Russia attacks a NATO country then WWIII has already started whether American soldiers are standing there when it happens or not.

[DaleCooper]

Are people forgetting that the USSR lent support to North Korea and China lent support to North Vietnam-- at times when both those countries were nuclear powers? It has been demonstrated several times throughout the past 70 years that nuclear nations can be brought into conflict (however indirectly) without resorting to using WMDs.

PTSD from Bush's wars has completely fried the brains of most Americans, it seems. Anything involving the military doing its job, even if it doesn't involve violence, is seen as "endless war" or whatever other buzzword politicians have been throwing around the get elected. In reality, there is no contradiction between thinking that the Iraq war was an abomination and also thinking that we need a defensive show of force to make sure Putin stops at Ukraine.