Some thoughts on recent BS narratives around abortion

[BlueSwan]

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I f***ing wish it was. GeneralMacArthur has a much better idea of what it takes to win elections than the Democratic party does.

He's totally right that the ONLY solution is to vote, vote and vote for pro-choice politicians who can win. This is not a very sexy or edgy idea and it is no quickfix. But basically, the only thing standing in our way of real progress - not only on this issue, but on EVERY issue - is leftists who won't "demean" themselves to vote for pragmatic democrats. If young progressives voted at the same rate as old evangelical conservatives and like them managed to keep their eyes on the prize, democrats would win landslide victories. That is just a fact.

[BlueSwan]

Isn't a possible way forward to get access to abortion on the ballot in states, just like the GOP used to put DOMA stuff on the ballot in the 00's. If polls are to be believed, such ballot measures could well succeed if sufficiently moderate (like 15 weeks no limit access or so) and could motivate young progressive to actually f***ing vote.

[BlueSwan]

Isn't a possible way forward to get access to abortion on the ballot in states, just like the GOP used to put DOMA stuff on the ballot in the 00's. If polls are to be believed, such ballot measures could well succeed if sufficiently moderate (like 15 weeks no limit access or so) and could motivate young progressive to actually f***ing vote.

This could be a good idea, although it may be strategically better to avoid such things so people can't split-ticket vote.  Like all the right-leaning women who are furious about abortion should have to vote (D) to get their abortion rights back, they shouldn't be able to use the referendum as a single-issue cop-out and then vote straight-ticket (R) the rest of the way.

True.

So the question remains. Will an abortion ballot measure lead more young progressive to turn up to vote (and hence also vote for democrats while they are at it) than it will prevent right-leaning women from supporting democrats because they can do split-ticket voting. I tend to think the former, mostly because I am very sceptical of the idea that this will lead all that many republican voters to switch sides. I tend to think that to the extent overturning Roe makes a difference it is more likely to come from boosting democratic turnout than from persuading republicans.