The Gun Control Thread!

[MN-Troy]

Minnesota as many other states do, has what is called 'single subject rule' and this provision prevents unrelated measures to be passed without debate or notice. A Ramsey County Judge ruled that the Minnesota Citizens Personal Protection Act (MCPPA) was unconstitutional because it was attached to an unrelated DNR bill. However the Minnesota State Supreme Court has a ruling on what process an amendment must follow not to violate the law. This process was followed by the MCPPA, and the issue whether the amendment was germane was one the highly debated subject at the State Capitol and it was passed by a hefty margin.

What this advocacy group did was to do some 'judge shopping and found a sympathetic judge ; however, it's my opinion this ruling is unlikely to stand when its appealed.

On a personal question to Managing Editor Ilikeverin is why you are happy about this ruling? Let's say the law is overturned and that means the law reverts back to the original gun law. The original gun law allows permitted guns into school, no penalty for having a gun while under the influence, and which permits are discretionary.

Be careful of what you ask for.

[MN-Troy]

Like criminals care whether or not carrying a gun is legal or not.

So we must make it harder to get a gun.

Besides, Concealed Carry would only help crminials... for instance, if a criminal was walking to shoot someone, but was stopped by a cop:

Cop: Is that a gun you're hiding?
Criminal: Er, why, yes, yes it is.
Cop: Can I see your Concealed Carry permit?
Criminal: Here you are...

And then the criminal would walk on and shoot a family of 8.

Let's define the word 'criminal

A criminal is someone who has been convicted of a crime, therefore such a person would not be granted a permit under the Minnesota law.

I have yet to hear of any major gun crimes committed by legal permits since the MCPPA was passed last year.

[MN-Troy]

This just in:

The muder rate in the Twin Cities has spiked 500% as innocent citizens get gunned down, because they have no means of protecting themselves.

Crime figures aren't available for dates that recent, I think

Besides, AFAIK the crime rate has not gone down since the law was passed.

Instead of the looking at whether the crime rate has gone down; look at whether or not the crime rate involving guns has gone up since the law was passed.
 
The supporters of the bill at the Capitol never once mentioned that the passage of this bill would lower the crime rate.