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Author Topic: Sex-Orientation Discrimination Bill  (Read 5526 times)
dazzleman
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« on: January 22, 2006, 10:34:40 PM »
I'd have to see the whole text of the bill to decide.  What's presented here seems uncontroversial, but I suspect there's more to it than what has been presented here if they've been having trouble getting it passed in a liberal state.
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dazzleman
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2006, 10:43:05 PM »
Quote from: A18 on January 22, 2006, 10:40:33 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on January 22, 2006, 10:34:40 PM
What's presented here seems uncontroversial...

Uncontroversial? I suppose among those who hate freedom, yes.

I mean, it doesn't really seem like anything not already covered in other laws.  Maybe I'm missing something.
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dazzleman
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2006, 10:48:29 PM »
Quote from: A18 on January 22, 2006, 10:45:18 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on January 22, 2006, 10:43:05 PM
Quote from: A18 on January 22, 2006, 10:40:33 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on January 22, 2006, 10:34:40 PM
What's presented here seems uncontroversial...

Uncontroversial? I suppose among those who hate freedom, yes.

I mean, it doesn't really seem like anything not already covered in other laws.  Maybe I'm missing something.

Other laws like what? The Civil Rights Act of 1964 does not cover all discrimination.

Yes, that's true.  I really didn't read it that carefully, since I'm tired and about to hit the hay.  I'm surprised any 'rights' bill is having trouble getting passed in a liberal state like Washington.  There must be something controversial to it, even for blue-staters.
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dazzleman
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2006, 08:51:04 PM »
Quote from: Co-Senator Hawk on January 23, 2006, 09:43:15 AM
Aye - I'm vehemenently opposed to all forms of discrimination (and yes, I include affirmative action)

Dave

What about competence?  Isn't only hiring a person you perceive as competent a form of discrimination?

You're getting a little PC here, man.  Face the facts -- we discriminate every day, in many, many ways.  The question is not whether we discriminate, but whether we do it on valid grounds.
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dazzleman
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2006, 10:07:32 PM »
Quote from: Pym Fortuyn on January 23, 2006, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: Emsworth on January 23, 2006, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: Pym Fortuyn on January 22, 2006, 10:32:01 PM
Obviously Emsworth, Jake, A18 and the others here have never experienced discrimination before, so they don't know what they're talking about.
How exactly would you be in a position to know whether any of us has experienced discrimination? In any event, whether we have or have not experienced it is completely irrelevant.

I am 100% sure that none of you have experienced the type of discrimination this bill aims to prevent. It may be irrelevant, I wasn't making a legal arguement. A person's experience with discrimination directly affects his views, so it is related.

Pym, is there something you want to tell us?
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