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tmthforu94
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« on: April 29, 2009, 09:18:39 PM »

Let's say, both the DNC and RNC decided to change up the primary process, to where all states vote on one day. With that, states like Iowa and New Hampshire wouldn't have the influence they do, and you wouldn't get the momentum of winning a state.

The election for both party's was February 5th.
Who wins?
Please provide maps, preferably for both parties.

Keep in mind...
Clinton was leading in polls, and Obama wouldn't have had the Iowa momentum
Huckabee also wouldn't have had the Iowa momentum.
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2009, 02:50:01 PM »

Here are my own maps...

Democrats:
Obama-Green
Clinton-Red
Richardon-Gray
Edwards-Blue



Republicans:
Blue-Romney
Red-Huckabee
Green-Guiliani
Gray-McCain

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tmthforu94
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2009, 02:51:05 PM »

I don't know how it would have turned out, but it'd be a much more sensible and reasonable system.

Agreed. The current system gives to much power to states.
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2009, 08:11:38 PM »

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Look at polls before the Iowa caucus...Clinton was still leading Obama nationwide by a large %. Obama didn't have the momentum of winning states.
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2009, 03:24:20 PM »

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Look at polls before the Iowa caucus...Clinton was still leading Obama nationwide by a large %. Obama didn't have the momentum of winning states.

And precisely he overperformed in Iowa. Obama's support rose and fell during the democratic campaign. When he won Iowa, it was one of his best momentums.
Once again, look at nationwide polls, even after the Iowa caucus. Clinton was still leading Obama. Also, Obama didn't have the solid black support until a few states later, so he would have split it with Clinton.
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2009, 03:59:31 PM »

Yeah Frenchy. Obama would not win many states without his momentum from Iowa. In fact, if anything 2008 was the biggest reason for a national primary day, because it essentially delivered the Presidency to Obama. Granted many, many other factors played a role, but had Edwards won Iowa than Clinton would be the President today, and if Romney had beaten Huckabee than he would have been the GOP nominee

Exactly.
I really don't like how Iowa has so much influence in the nominating process, when it's not that big of a state. Not just because I'm a Romney fan, but I really think it would have come down to Romney or Guiliani for the GOP nomination, where Romney would have won.
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