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Junior Chimp
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« on: July 14, 2018, 01:49:33 PM »


Oh, that scamp McCain, still with his 20th-century thinking. Tongue

As the most prominent politician who has been right on Russia all along, good to hear this from him. Smiley
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2018, 12:30:29 PM »

Perhaps we can finally put to bed the notion of the Republican Party as the party this nation most entrusts with our national security, now that it's no longer true.  This is the moment the Democratic Party can finally step up to the plate after fifty years, and reclaim our rightful place as the guarantors of this nation's national security.        
I certainly hope the Democratic Party does so. But as one of the O.G. Neocons on this forum, I haven't forgotten how utterly opposed the Dems were for over a decade to the things that Dems are now saying about foreign policy, especially Russia. There's a reason I'm so snarky about THE OUTRAGE over Russia given all the crap with reset buttons and 20th-century foreign policy and how damn muted the reaction was from the Obama camp to the Russian invasion of Georgia - they sounded then about Georgia how Trumpists sound now about Crimea! - and then there were the bits where Angela Merkel de facto exercised a veto over American foreign policy, where Obama wanted to send weapons to the Ukrainians and bomb the Syrian government over its use of chemical weapons, but backed off when Merkel wouldn't support it. Great way to tear international norms to pieces, when there isn't even enforcement of "don't invade and annex pieces of other countries" and "don't use chemical weapons", two of the few things that the international community actually used to do something about. While Trump is a despicable self-centered borderline traitor who should be impeached as soon as possible (only a borderline traitor because I don't think he's doing this out of any type of ideological conviction, instead just out of naked self-interest), he didn't start the process of letting the Russians run rampant. YOU lot did.

Given how utterly the Republican Party is going into the abyss, all of you Dems are going to get your chance to be in power. But you're going to have to be better than the Obama administration to "step up to the plate" and "reclaim our rightful place as the guarantors of this nation's national security". Because otherwise you're going to screw everything up through inaction and weakness and general lack of competence and oh, yes, arrogance, and then we're all going to be in an even worse crisis than what we have already.

Please, Dems, find your backbone and your brains on foreign policy again. The Reps have managed to lose both of those in a shockingly short amount of time. Be more than the one mob that wants war with Eastasia and alliance with Eurasia just because the other mob wants war with Eurasia and alliance with Eastasia.

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