SENATE BILL: Reproductive Health Expansion Act (Passed)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Reproductive Health Expansion Act.

1.) Reproductive health procedures, including medical terminations shall hereby be included within 'Atlascare' health plans created through the 'Reforming and Regionalizing Public Healthcare Act of 2017

2.) The availability of these procedures shall depend on the laws and restrictions imposed by said region.

2B.) Atlascare health plans shall include expenses to enable patients to travel to receive treatments laid out within their plans, if they are unable to access this care within their region.

Sponsor: Blair
Senate Designation: SB30:11?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Sponsor advocacy 24 hours with 48 hours for other members to respond.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It was not my intention to delay a detailed response on such an important matter so long but I wanted to handle the response correctly and not just race through it and the last week or two has been choppy with trying to figure out a 3 to 5 year plan in terms of education/career IRL, my current job and other difficulties.

My preference has always been for the contraception access approach (which is in Atlascare) as a means to discourage and at some point eliminate the need for abortion, in conjunction with a combined effort of other actions including adoption, etc. While the complete elimination is rather idealistic obviously, my preference is for the current setup with contraceptives plus the emergency access Blair mentioned.

That being said I do applaud Blair's respect for the regions and ability to regulate this regionally.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Whats the next action here? Final vote?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Seconding. A vote is now open on the motion to table, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Normally I wouldn't prefer tabling but this Senate needs some kind of jolt at this point to get the juices flowing leading into the transition to the new Senate. Perhaps a spirited discussion on abortion will help with that.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Normally I wouldn't prefer tabling but this Senate needs some kind of jolt at this point to get the juices flowing leading into the transition to the new Senate. Perhaps a spirited discussion on abortion will help with that.

Simplifying this bill into an abortion debate is inappropriate. Many pregnancies that are intended to be carried out regrettably require medical terminations that are very disheartening for the involved family.

This bill isn't just limited to emergency medical terminations though.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Normally I wouldn't prefer tabling but this Senate needs some kind of jolt at this point to get the juices flowing leading into the transition to the new Senate. Perhaps a spirited discussion on abortion will help with that.

Simplifying this bill into an abortion debate is inappropriate. Many pregnancies that are intended to be carried out regrettably require medical terminations that are very disheartening for the involved family.

This bill isn't just limited to emergency medical terminations though.

By voting to table, one could say you are, ahem, "throwing the baby out with the bath water".

I haven't voted to table yet.

I expended like three PMs tonight to get one substantive post in another bill thread. It took me saying one word to get you to say two here.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Normally I wouldn't prefer tabling but this Senate needs some kind of jolt at this point to get the juices flowing leading into the transition to the new Senate. Perhaps a spirited discussion on abortion will help with that.

Simplifying this bill into an abortion debate is inappropriate. Many pregnancies that are intended to be carried out regrettably require medical terminations that are very disheartening for the involved family.

This bill isn't just limited to emergency medical terminations though.

By voting to table, one could say you are, ahem, "throwing the baby out with the bath water".

I haven't voted to table yet.

Yet? Don't terminate protections for prospective mothers without considering what is best for all!

Come on convince me like you mean it!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Normally I wouldn't prefer tabling but this Senate needs some kind of jolt at this point to get the juices flowing leading into the transition to the new Senate. Perhaps a spirited discussion on abortion will help with that.

Simplifying this bill into an abortion debate is inappropriate. Many pregnancies that are intended to be carried out regrettably require medical terminations that are very disheartening for the involved family.

This bill isn't just limited to emergency medical terminations though.

By voting to table, one could say you are, ahem, "throwing the baby out with the bath water".

I haven't voted to table yet.

Yet? Don't terminate protections for prospective mothers without considering what is best for all!

Come on convince me like you mean it!

Hey, if you think grieving would-be mothers should have to pay a hefty sum for miscarrying, I would love to convince you otherwise but it seems self-evident.

I am 85% sure that someone who miscarries would fall under "emergency care", which is explicitly listed as covered in Atlas care going back to the original 2017 text.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Normally I wouldn't prefer tabling but this Senate needs some kind of jolt at this point to get the juices flowing leading into the transition to the new Senate. Perhaps a spirited discussion on abortion will help with that.

Simplifying this bill into an abortion debate is inappropriate. Many pregnancies that are intended to be carried out regrettably require medical terminations that are very disheartening for the involved family.

This bill isn't just limited to emergency medical terminations though.

By voting to table, one could say you are, ahem, "throwing the baby out with the bath water".

I haven't voted to table yet.

Yet? Don't terminate protections for prospective mothers without considering what is best for all!

Come on convince me like you mean it!

Hey, if you think grieving would-be mothers should have to pay a hefty sum for miscarrying, I would love to convince you otherwise but it seems self-evident.

I am 85% sure that someone who miscarries would fall under "emergency care", which is explicitly listed as covered in Atlas care going back to the original 2017 text.

I am 85% sure that basing public policy on "85%" situations is the wrong choice. Every Atlasian deserves to be treated with dignity.

All policy in game is based on some level of uncertainty based on the obvious reality that we lack the industry expertise, lawyers, and well staff to do what real life policy makers do and even they get it wrong also with all of that expertise and expense. I consider myself knowledgeable about health care policy, but I do not pretend to be an expert on each medical field, classification of illness, nor do I pretend to be a doctor or medical professional.

It is also worth noting that attempts to push towards a RL style format of legislating has often yielded a negative reaction since it can be rather less than obvious what is being done. A good example of this would be Mr R's style and format of structuring legislation as alterations to the legal code. For the sake of the game, it is our accepted style to say what is happening or what is being changed and then operate on the basis that it does in fact do so because we said it did, such as with "emergency care".

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Abstain

With Blair's vote against, passing the motion is impossible. Therefore the motion to table has been rejected.

Aye (1): Spark498
Nay (3): Blair, Pericles and Sev
Abstain (2): Falterin and NC Yankee

Didn't Vote (0):

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

By the time I post this it will have been twenty four hours.

Seeing no objection, a final vote is now open, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

 June 21, 2021, 05:00:55 PM

Today at 05:00:55 PM


lol, can't time that better.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Extending this to get to a quorum.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Final Passage of the Reproductive Health Expansion Act:


Aye (4): Blair, Falterin, Pericles and Sev
Nay (2): NC Yankee and Spark498
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):

This bill has passed the Senate and is sent to the VP for house action.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

SENATE BILL

Be it enacted in both houses of Congress Assembled,

Reproductive Health Expansion Act.

1.) Reproductive health procedures, including medical terminations shall hereby be included within 'Atlascare' health plans created through the 'Reforming and Regionalizing Public Healthcare Act of 2017

2.) The availability of these procedures shall depend on the laws and restrictions imposed by said region.

2B.) Atlascare health plans shall include expenses to enable patients to travel to receive treatments laid out within their plans, if they are unable to access this care within their region.

People's Regional Senate
Passed 4-2 in the Atlasian Senate Assembled,