DC Unrest Megathread

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

As he has proven again and again during his "Presidency", Donald Trump eventually always reverts back to his old self after he has been forced to temporarily act presidential. So I wonder whether we will see him attacking Adam Kinzinger for being a "RINO" or the recently resignated personnel from his administration as "losers" before January 20 comes. I mean his Twitter account is now unlocked again.

He’ll backtrack very soon, probably before he leaves office.

That’s why he needs to go.

He also needs to be lifetime banned from Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and Youtube as a public safety risk, disinformation spreader and inciter of violence.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Indeed. And it's important to note that fascist coups historically have not had the support of a majority of the population. In the last free and fair elections under the Weimar Republic, the NSDAP received roughly a third of the overall popular vote. The fact that anywhere from 10% to 20% of adults nationwide believe a violent assault on the U.S. Capitol was justified is a grave commentary on the state of the republic. That is why I am pushing back so hard against the suggestion that we shouldn't equate Trump's actions with what most Republicans support. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if Republicans say they support these actions or not. If they are still willing to vote for the perpetrators of Wednesday's attacks, then we have every reason to believe that this will happen again, and next time with better planning and support. We need to take very seriously the reality that a significant number of Americans support a fascist coup against their own government —and we need to do everything in our power to ensure that number does not continue to grow.

If we want to avoid a larger percentage willing to do destructive things, we have to consider how not to act, how not to further radicalize potential stormers of Capitol buildings.
And that's the prism I primarily look at in regards to this.
It's not helpful to unduly give Trump fans reason to feel persecuted to a degree this thing might happen again and the numbers willing to participate grow.

Tim this is months too late at this point. We have reached the point where we need to put a stop to this insanity. The disinformation needs to be stopped now, the people pushing it need to be held accountable and it must be made very clear that we will never tolerate this kind of behavior here, ever again.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Indeed. And it's important to note that fascist coups historically have not had the support of a majority of the population. In the last free and fair elections under the Weimar Republic, the NSDAP received roughly a third of the overall popular vote. The fact that anywhere from 10% to 20% of adults nationwide believe a violent assault on the U.S. Capitol was justified is a grave commentary on the state of the republic. That is why I am pushing back so hard against the suggestion that we shouldn't equate Trump's actions with what most Republicans support. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if Republicans say they support these actions or not. If they are still willing to vote for the perpetrators of Wednesday's attacks, then we have every reason to believe that this will happen again, and next time with better planning and support. We need to take very seriously the reality that a significant number of Americans support a fascist coup against their own government —and we need to do everything in our power to ensure that number does not continue to grow.

Bet you never thought we would come this close to reality imitating art?

At the end of the day radicalism is the same regardless of which side it originates on, the danger posed is just the same as well. Likewise the same rules apply for stopping it. Block them from obtaining control, then fix the underlying problems on your terms, not theirs.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I just watched the CNN video where Trumpists viciously assaulted one of the officers trying to hold them back. The screaming of the guard, and the blood lust of the Trumpists...

Goddamn every Trump supporter. And goddamn the complicit Republican Party.

That video got my blood boiling. I said before I would have loved to have been there. These clowns would probably never attack a military base for a reason. So why not send us to them

We tried, the department of defense didn't allow the national guard to deploy after requests from the mayor and from Maryland who were stuck waiting at the border.

Yea there was likely internal sabotage at work probably stemming from Trump or some lackey trying to carry out his desired outcome like with the GSA back in November.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/1347915446897446916

LMAO

This can't be real, can it?

I see you are shocked as well that we haven't all bowed down to Joe Pesci as Supreme Overlord, yet? He has, well had, George Carlin's endorsement for deity.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/1347915446897446916

LMAO

This can't be real, can it?

More serious response:

The 2-3 minutes between Kevin realizing he is in New York alone and him going to the observatory on top of 2 World War Trade Center with Darlene Love's Alone on Christmas playing in the background, is perhaps one my most favorite movie sequences of all time.

Then almost immediately afterwards, you get Kevin asking Donald for directions. IIRC he basically extorted his cameo as himself in exchange for letting them use the Plaza Hotel, which he owned at the time.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A conviction (even if after January 20tn) would bar Trump from running in 2024, right?  If so, I could see some Republicans supporting it for the reason of taking back the party.  If not, I think most Senate Republicans would view it as a sideshow that doesn't really matter anymore.

I believe it wouldn’t automatically do so, but after conviction he would only need a majority vote to be barred from running again.

That vote would pass easily though at this point. The difficulty is getting to 2/3rds for the first one.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It would be greatly satisfying for me if say one of the unexpected Ayes were to stand up and tell Josh Hawley or Tuberville, "God Damn it I vote yes, YOU SHOOT ME DEAD, I VOTE YES!!!".

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I wonder how many GOP senators secretly want a Trump conviction so he's not a primary threat in 2024.

Impeachment doesn't make you ineligible to run for a second term.

Once convicted, Senate can by majority vote, bar them from holding office in the future.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I wonder how many GOP senators secretly want a Trump conviction so he's not a primary threat in 2024.

Impeachment doesn't make you ineligible to run for a second term.

Once convicted, Senate can by majority vote, bar them from holding office in the future.

The Constitution isn't really clear on what kind of majority is required for disqualification to holding office:

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

The resolution itself contains language barring him from holding office according to what I saw earlier, so if that gets 2/3rds, the concern is probably moot.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

More Republicans are now freaking out and refusing to go through the medal detector.

Is there someone (media) showing this live?.
If so, where.

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1349159121032011777?s=20

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1349159492383100928?s=20

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1349162337568227328?s=20

Utterly pathetic.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

https://twitter.com/forecasterenten/status/1349124536868999169

Yes break the echo chamber and contest the space and it will keep dropping.