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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« on: June 27, 2020, 10:39:39 PM »

Feel free to ask me anything related to the Federalist Party.
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2020, 11:02:45 PM »

What exactly was the whole strategy behind running Siren/Muaddib? Was there serious evidence you had that it would win notable levels of Labor defections? There was certainly some resistance to the ticket from parts of the fed base and it may have actually widened Pericles margin by a couple points compared to what a standard conservative ticket would have gotten.

She wanted to run for it, is well respected and has significant experience.

Presidency is a horrendously annoying job that takes immense amounts of time, is insanely difficult to obtain and then once you do, it is easy to get burned out quickly. Therefore, in a situation with a limited bench and almost nonexistant path to victory, it shouldn't be surprising that few are chomping at the bit to run for President, especially in the current era where failed candidates both are self-shaming and discord shamed into oblivion. In a previous era there was not this stigma and you had frequent candidacies by people that helped bring competition and differing perspectives even if there was little chance of victory.

I am not aware of any other motivations, though I can guess some were posited at points in some discord server or another.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2020, 10:55:23 AM »

Do you believe that a pivot towards neoliberal ideas similar to those promoted by the Third Way Left could help the Federalist Party? Why or why not?

Are there 30 to 40 people who presently hold those positions, who would change their votes as a result?
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2020, 12:25:13 PM »

The other day on Discord I launched a comparison between some real life electorates in the US, and some US states.

My conclusion was that the electorate in Atlasia most closely resembles that of states like Vermont (55D-30R), Maryland (55D-25R) or Hawaii (54D-29R)

While real life comparisons can only really take you so far and often they fail, it is worth noting that in real life the first 2 states actually have Republican governors (and both elected in landslides)

So why have Federalists been unable to win for a long time? Is there no suitable candidate like the R governors of those 2 states? Is it because of the online nature of the game? Is it something else?

Those states have something called vote splitting, which doesn't happen in Atlasia much anymore.
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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2020, 01:21:51 AM »

Which Labor power player do you find the most annoying?

Which Fed one?

I couldn't care less about this petty high school, discord bs.
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2020, 01:31:26 AM »

The other day on Discord I launched a comparison between some real life electorates in the US, and some US states.

My conclusion was that the electorate in Atlasia most closely resembles that of states like Vermont (55D-30R), Maryland (55D-25R) or Hawaii (54D-29R)

While real life comparisons can only really take you so far and often they fail, it is worth noting that in real life the first 2 states actually have Republican governors (and both elected in landslides)

So why have Federalists been unable to win for a long time? Is there no suitable candidate like the R governors of those 2 states? Is it because of the online nature of the game? Is it something else?

Those states have something called vote splitting, which doesn't happen in Atlasia much anymore.

Larry Hogan got 51% in 2014 (and 55% in 2018) though.

The voters that used to make elections like that here possible are now solidly in the Labor camp.
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2020, 10:53:40 AM »

Posting here not to derail the Fed convention

Despite Yankee's points on "we are recruiting everywhere we can", I would say recent results disprove that point and the net is not being cast wide enough.

The inescapable truth is that, if Federalists want to win an election, it is not good enough to recruit conservatives and centrists. They are going to also need to recruit a good chunk of the D-state blob that is all too common on Atlas these days.

These are people who are firmly on the left even if they are not radical socialists. But if these people do not vote Federalist, the party is screwed and will not win an election.

The Federalists can be a firmly right of center party; or a winning party but in Atlasia they cannot be both

Of course, the question is how to recruit them and I do not have an answer to that.

What reason do they have to join us when they can just join you guys? There is nothing about you or about us that would induce them not to join you in a vacuum with all things being equal. Its not like the olden days were a good chunk of the center-left hated Labor's guts because of what it did to the Liberal Party.
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