SENATE BILL: Welfare Restoration Act (Failed)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor: TNF

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The sponsor has 24 hours to begin advocating for this.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Child poverty declined significantly during the Clinton years, which one would not expect if welfare reform were an unmitigated disaster for poor people.  This decline was especially marked for single parent families.


(note the last part of this graph may not be accurate for Atlasia)

Perhaps there are changes to be made but there is enough evidence suggesting it has contributed to reductions in poverty that we shouldn't just get rid of it.

Also we have a Basic Income program now as an option for those who can't access adequate help through TANF and other welfare programs.

Correlation =/= Causation

Couldn't the same be said of evidence supporting TNF's assertions though?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Child poverty declined significantly during the Clinton years, which one would not expect if welfare reform were an unmitigated disaster for poor people.  This decline was especially marked for single parent families.


(note the last part of this graph may not be accurate for Atlasia)

Perhaps there are changes to be made but there is enough evidence suggesting it has contributed to reductions in poverty that we shouldn't just get rid of it.

Also we have a Basic Income program now as an option for those who can't access adequate help through TANF and other welfare programs.

Correlation =/= Causation

Couldn't the same be said of evidence supporting TNF's assertions though?

Possibly....Things that happen to the economy are rather hard to prove, hence the various wildly differing schools of thought.

So should we just start flipping coins here or something man?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So are there any amendments to this or are we done here?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A Final Vote is now open on the underlying legislation, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

NAY

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Since we are down a member, I think this only needs five to call 24 hours so I am going to do that.

This has enough votes to fail, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Final Passage of the Welfare Restoration Act:

Aye (4): bore, Talleyrand, TNF and TyriontheImperialist
Nay (5): DC al Fine, Goldwater, Mr. X, NC Yankee, and shua
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):
Vacant Seats (1): Tmthforu94

With five votes in the negative and four in the affiramtive with time having expired, the bill has been rejected.