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« on: October 28, 2011, 11:21:38 PM »

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Oh look, it's this lame talking point again.

It's not a talking point.  It's reality.  None of the major things Republicans are discussing are theoretical.  It's all been tried before with varying degress of success (by which I mean failure).  There are numerous countries with weak central governments and low taxes on the rich that would love for US millionares to relocate.  Ever wonder why you don't see an exodus?  Think about it.


It is a talking point. It insinuates that the call for less gov't is a complete absolute desire for none at all. Hyperbolistic exaggeration of one's opponents is one of the most common of talking points.
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 11:22:44 PM »

This thread was created by, for and of people who couldn't fathom a group people voting based on a different criteria, then their own. The entire premise is probably the height of insulting condescension. This is because it insinuates that the only way poor people should vote, is based on who will give them the most gov't assistance, and to vote any other way must be the result of ignorance.


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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 09:42:52 PM »

So everyone who doesn't cling to gov't as the solution to their problems, is stupid and ignorant.

The arrogance, the certainity that no one else can form a different opinion unless they are of lesser intelligence. It is sickening, I tell you.

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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 08:45:40 PM »

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Oh look, it's this lame talking point again.

It's not a talking point.  It's reality.  None of the major things Republicans are discussing are theoretical.  It's all been tried before with varying degress of success (by which I mean failure).  There are numerous countries with weak central governments and low taxes on the rich that would love for US millionares to relocate.  Ever wonder why you don't see an exodus?  Think about it.


It is a talking point. It insinuates that the call for less gov't is a complete absolute desire for none at all. Hyperbolistic exaggeration of one's opponents is one of the most common of talking points.




Some people call it "hyperbolistic exaggeration."  I call it "reading the newspaper."

This is the same Bachmann who says we should declare war on Iran as a response to the recent attempt to kill the ambassador in Washington, DC. This would inevitably require a military, would it not? Is the military not gov't?

Beyond that, I found Bachmann's answer on taxes very interesting the morning on ABC. She wants to raise taxes on the both 50%. These would require a gov't to collect them, would it not.

Even your point about "eliminating all taxes" doesn't mean elminating all gov't. Perhaps she wants to use the Chinese credit card. With her intelligence and flakery, I wouldn't be surprised if such was the case.

Congratulations, I didn't think exaggerating Bachmann was possible, but you have won the gold medal. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 09:29:53 PM »
« Edited: October 30, 2011, 09:31:25 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

Was my very general accounting of the history of party influence in the South erroneous?  Please correct me if I'm wrong.


Read the article I posted.

The article is fairly accurate in it's depictions of the events of the growth of the GOP in the South. Most of the "racist" rural whites in the deep south didn't become reliably Republican voters till the 1990's. Thus it is logical to state that it was the three G's, God, Guns and Gays that swung them to the GOP, not race. The other exception is the rural whites of East TN and Western NC/VA, which have been Republican since the 1860's.These groups opposed the elitism of the Segregationist Democrats and and thus it is perfectly consistent to oppose the elitism of the the far left. The rich middle class people who have been GOP since the days of Ike are logical choices to be Republican.

The southern strategy was really nothing special or even new. Hoover had one in 1928. Both parties ignored race because it would be like voting on an abortion measure during high unemployment. "Those damn Republicans are too busy trying to help the negro rather than help get us northern working class folk jobs", instead of "Them damn Republicans are focusing on abortion instead of jobs". Unlike pro-lifers, blacks didn't have an political influence until 1948 when they provided Truman with his victory margin in OH, ILL and CA. 
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