Israel-Gaza war

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I still don't believe in war, but Israel has much better justification to invade than Putin did for Ukraine.

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I watched all the Jews and Muslims protest today in NYC over the Gaza/Israel border. If only all those people cared the same about our border!

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I watched all the Jews and Muslims protest today in NYC over the Gaza/Israel border. If only all those people cared the same about our border!

No particular reason to think they don't. It is possible to hold more than one opinion at a time.

I mean they aren't passionate about it the same way or they would have been out on the streets a few weeks ago when NYC had a major migrant crisis.

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One thing I noticed is there is a lot less WW3 panic compared to the Russian invasion of Ukraine or even Soleimani's death. Seems twitter has finally stopped the doomcasting.

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https://twitter.com/theramrum/status/1712919776660504754
Absolutely sickening, Israel does not deserve any "moral" benefit of the doubt. When your brutalize an entire population you are no better than Hamas.

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"We just killed your family but here's a juice box, look how loving we are!"
https://twitter.com/VidarbhaaTimes/status/1712924490513129647

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Israel could nuke, eradicate, and cleanse Gaza and many of its supporters would simply say it was necessary to prevent Holocaust 2...

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https://twitter.com/ttjktyrt/status/1721949915272888693

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https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1721657851700277638?t=ZKxFfbfLbHT70QhEEk...
This is horrific but you need to force yourself to watch this to be aware of the cruelty implemented by Israel.

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https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1721657851700277638?t=ZKxFfbfLbHT70QhEEk...
This is horrific but you need to force yourself to watch this to be aware of the cruelty implemented by Israel.

Now show the Kibbutzim which were ruthlessly attacked and indiscriminately slaughtered. I support a ceasefire and a return to 1967 borders but I am tired of the selective propaganda by both sides on here.
That goes for you too, Hollywood.

The difference everyone knows Hamas are terrorists. Many people still think Israel is heroic despite this genocide.

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https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1721657851700277638?t=ZKxFfbfLbHT70QhEEk...
This is horrific but you need to force yourself to watch this to be aware of the cruelty implemented by Israel.

Now show the Kibbutzim which were ruthlessly attacked and indiscriminately slaughtered. I support a ceasefire and a return to 1967 borders but I am tired of the selective propaganda by both sides on here.
That goes for you too, Hollywood.

The difference everyone knows Hamas are terrorists. Many people still think Israel is heroic despite this genocide.

They are heroic because they are fighting the terrorists. The one directly flows from the other and the two are inseparable.

Also, come on, if you were doing a "genocide" you wouldn't have people calling to warn of strikes ahead of time, as Israel does. I don't think America does this -- maybe in Yemen under Obama, but pre-2010s America certainly didn't -- and I know the countries my ancestors fought for never did. Like, somebody calling from "Israeli intelligence" with accurate Israeli intelligence is actually on the payroll of the Israeli government. None of this stuff is even remotely mandated by international law, which lets you bomb actual military targets regardless of what other uses they're being applied for.

Also, non-signatories who do not themselves abide by the Geneva Conventions are not protected by them; on an important level this isn't even the type of conflict to which those rules apply, though Israel is going beyond them anyway in a misguided effort to appease Western mainstream news organizations, who inshallah will not exist after the next Republican Administration.

Far more Palestinians have died especially women and children from Israeli bombing than the initial attack done against Israel by Hamas. Hamas absolutely doesn't have the moral high ground here, but I don't think Israel can claim it either.

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Some of the Israeli government needs to be put on trial for war crimes after this. We learned this the hard way after WW2, and need to make sure never again really means never again.

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https://twitter.com/gaza_report/status/1730230482531504137?t=OOzPfJ2mhhSsdWIs0ny...

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The reason why "But Hamas"  fails as a justification for Israeli brutally is because Hamas is a terrorist organization. A civilized nation like Israel should be holding themselves to a much higher standard.

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The reason why "But Hamas"  fails as a justification for Israeli brutally is because Hamas is a terrorist organization. A civilized nation like Israel should be holding themselves to a much higher standard.

No, the same laws should apply to all militaries and nations. Otherwise you're just hoping "the civilized nation"/whoever takes those laws seriously loses.

The difference in rhetoric is just that Hamas does not bother to deny war crimes, so there is no conversation to be had there, while Israel puts such ridiculous effort into not doing them that catching some slip-up (which, amusingly, doesn't seem to have happened yet in this conflict) would damage their credibility, and so people feel very motivated to go look for "Israeli war crimes". A very important task for the future of democracies being able to wage wars at all is to prevent people like this from having important positions in media organizations, though hopefully this can be neatly solved by having monopolistic media organizations not exist in the near future.

You don't get to be as barbaric as a terrorist organization and also hold yourself to a moral high ground.

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Fortunately, Israeli soldiers are stupid enough to document their own war crimes

They know they can get away with it. Who is going to punish them? Israel, the UN, Biden's press secretary? When your an IDF soldier...

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What's truly interesting is people get more mad about comparing this to the holocaust then they do about Israel's atrocities.

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Bibi is now making up lies in order to justify the invasion. How many allies died fighting the Nazi's? I'm pretty sure that number is somewhere in the millions.