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Pick Up the Phone
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« on: November 29, 2020, 11:20:15 AM »
« edited: November 29, 2020, 11:31:49 AM by Pick Up the Phone »

I’m honestly terrified he could somehow win again.


We all should be terrified of that.  And not just of him, but his children too.  And anyone else crazy.

2016 should be a lessen to us all not to take elections for granted, and that insane people with authoritarian complexes can win.  Too much has been sacrificed these last four years for any of us to ever laugh at the notion of a wannabe-dictator and laughably crazy individual becoming president again.

One easy way to fix that is to get rid of the primary system and let the party elites chose the candidate. As it is done in almost every major democracy.
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2020, 03:58:32 PM »

I’m honestly terrified he could somehow win again.


We all should be terrified of that.  And not just of him, but his children too.  And anyone else crazy.

2016 should be a lessen to us all not to take elections for granted, and that insane people with authoritarian complexes can win.  Too much has been sacrificed these last four years for any of us to ever laugh at the notion of a wannabe-dictator and laughably crazy individual becoming president again.

One easy way to fix that is to get rid of the primary system and let the party elites chose the candidate. As it is done in almost every major democracy.
That’s... not democracy.

Sure it is. The US is the exception rather than the rule when it comes to the selection of presidential nominees. Usually, this choice is made by party delegates, which is not less democratic but rather provides you with an important pre-selection mechanism.
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Pick Up the Phone
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2020, 04:38:02 AM »

I’m honestly terrified he could somehow win again.


We all should be terrified of that.  And not just of him, but his children too.  And anyone else crazy.

2016 should be a lessen to us all not to take elections for granted, and that insane people with authoritarian complexes can win.  Too much has been sacrificed these last four years for any of us to ever laugh at the notion of a wannabe-dictator and laughably crazy individual becoming president again.

One easy way to fix that is to get rid of the primary system and let the party elites chose the candidate. As it is done in almost every major democracy.

This would be a step backwards. The only thing worse you could do is bring back the spoils system of patronage.

Absolutely not - it would be the right thing to do. Primary systems tend to promote style over substance and give radical candidates a structural advantage. In a country like post-war Germany where primaries are not really a thing, a political abomination like Trump would never have happened.
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Pick Up the Phone
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2020, 04:51:00 AM »

We all laughed back in 2016. Don't you ever treat him like a joke again. And we already have historical precedence for this; Grover Cleveland of course had two non-consecutive terms.

Quite the contrary. The only reasonable thing to do is to treat him like the joke he is.

And no, Grover Cleveland was no incompetent political clown who mishandled a pandemic, spent his days tweeting nonsense, and was ardently hated by at least half of the electorate.
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2020, 08:50:38 AM »

Absolutely not - it would be the right thing to do. Primary systems tend to promote style over substance and give radical candidates a structural advantage. In a country like post-war Germany where primaries are not really a thing, a political abomination like Trump would never have happened.

Not really: In Charlottenburg-Wilmersdorf, the reasonable candidate emerged victorious against the left-wing extremist.

We all know by now that you (a) have a serious problem with confident Muslim women and (b) love to call everything and everybody a 'left-wing extremist'. You don't have to derail every thread to prove it.
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