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Associate Justice PiT
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« on: July 22, 2012, 03:11:18 AM »

So it hasn't officially qualified yet, but it looks like we'll also have a 3 strikes reform on the November ballot. It's probably got a better chance of passing than the death penalty repeal, although voters did reject a similar Proposition several years ago. The 2010 Republican nominee for Attorney General supports the Proposition.

3 strikes reform would probably save significantly more money than the death penalty repeal. Arnold opposed it. He certainly did quite a lot of fiscally short-sighted things that came around to bite him in the ass.

The law that says if you steal a bike three times you get locked up forever, right?  That's such an incredibly stupid law, and I hope it's eliminated.

     Nah. You'd have to commit a violent felony & then steal two bikes. The problem is that petty theft with a prior felony is typically treated as a felony.
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2012, 04:37:24 PM »

I believe that every sapient individual has a fundamental right to life, something that no government can rightfully take away.

So governments aren't sapient to you, I take it?

Well, government isn't a sapient individual, as it isn't an individual.

Shocking. I wasn't aware of that. *facepalm*

FallenMorgan specifically said that he wanted citizens to "murder their governments." You can't possibly murder an institution, you can only murder people. You can abolish, end, or reform  an institution, but you can't murder it. In order to "murder" a government, you'd have to murder the people who make up that government. From Morgan's argument, it sounds like he wants citizens to murder their legislators. If he meant otherwise, he should have used less extreme and more socially accepted language. By his logic that sapient individuals have to right to life, but legislators should be murdered implies that he doesn't think legislators are sapient.

     It's a figure of speech, you see.
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