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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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« on: October 20, 2020, 05:12:47 AM »

Looks like all swing states are super close.

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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,249
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E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2020, 05:13:56 AM »

NC will likely be close, but I don't believe NC will vote to the right of the country by 11%. ABC/Wapo polls have been kind of wonky, so a bit of grain of salt.

That is why I don't believe the national polls showing huge Biden lead.
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,249
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E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2020, 05:18:27 AM »

NC will likely be close, but I don't believe NC will vote to the right of the country by 11%. ABC/Wapo polls have been kind of wonky, so a bit of grain of salt.

That is why I don't believe the national polls showing huge Biden lead.

What's your estimated national polling average, Ljube?

Biden+6
Same as Biden campaign.
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,249
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2020, 05:20:28 AM »

NC will likely be close, but I don't believe NC will vote to the right of the country by 11%. ABC/Wapo polls have been kind of wonky, so a bit of grain of salt.

That is why I don't believe the national polls showing huge Biden lead.

I'm going right from the ABC/Wapo poll. So you're saying you automatically believe this poll rather than their national poll.

No, no, of course not. I'm saying that the state polls aren't consistent with a Biden double digit national lead.
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,249
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2020, 05:23:43 AM »

NC will likely be close, but I don't believe NC will vote to the right of the country by 11%. ABC/Wapo polls have been kind of wonky, so a bit of grain of salt.

That is why I don't believe the national polls showing huge Biden lead.

I'm going right from the ABC/Wapo poll. So you're saying you automatically believe this poll rather than their national poll.

No, no, of course not. I'm saying that the state polls aren't consistent with a Biden double digit national lead.

I wouldn't say that - we've gotten a lot of high quality ones that are. But people choose not to believe them and instead believe the ones with a lower Biden lead.

Fair enough. I think we need to be just a little bit more patient and wait for the next batch of state polls. I'm sure that polls published this week, and in particular, those published next week after the final debate will be key to determining where the race stands.
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,249
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E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2020, 05:24:48 AM »

We also have plenty of district polls that are reflective of a double digit race

Maybe in those districts.
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,249
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E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2020, 05:30:44 AM »

We also have plenty of district polls that are reflective of a double digit race

Maybe in those districts.


For that to happen you'd need for other areas to be drifting towards Trump vs 2016 results in the same states

Yes, the rural areas, by a lot, but not by enough, hence Biden+6. I'm guessing here, could be Biden+7. After all Florida and North Carolina are high turnout states.
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,249
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2020, 05:35:52 AM »

We also have plenty of district polls that are reflective of a double digit race

Maybe in those districts.


For that to happen you'd need for other areas to be drifting towards Trump vs 2016 results in the same states

Yes, the rural areas, by a lot, but not by enough, hence Biden+6. I'm guessing here, could be Biden+7. After all Florida and North Carolina are high turnout states.


How

This election is going to be the rural against the urban.
Trump has completely consolidated the rural vote.
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