Mini Tuesday results thread

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That's a wrap. I'm off to bed.

Not going to stay up for Washington State, and then possibly be up until 3:00 AM EST, if it's a close election for vote counting to stop until tomorrow AM?   

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So does anybody have an idea of how many absentee ballots are out there and when they will be counted?

Honest question, and I'm not particularly versed in how MI counts their ballots, and then some comments earlier up-thread about their State Laws on this matter.

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Why is DDHQ showing Sanders with a 53-42 lead with 1.377k votes counted??

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Why is DDHQ showing Sanders with a 53-42 lead with 1.377k votes counted??

Looks like they just corrected it.... glitch somewhere.

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Is DDHQ okay?

CNN shows the same numbers....

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Watching MSNBC showing long lines to drop off ballots in WA State, which makes it easy to register & vote on same day in Renton, WA actually going in person despite the Coronavirus issue going on....

Drive in ballots (Oregon invented this in the US first in the Nation)....

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Genuine honest request.... (not again to Modjack), but can folks just chill a bit and focus a bit more on actual election data rather than emotional arguments and knee-jerk responses?

Get it that passions can get heated, but we still have tons of DEM PRIM states yet to vote if the contest does not end Tonight....

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Clark County Idaho 100% in. Biden and Sanders tied with 3 votes each.

Population? 982.

Still Clinton got (44) votes while Trump romped to a 72-16 Victory...

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Biden has taken the lean in Idaho per CNN

Minidoka County 106-72 Biden 58% in est....

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Biden has taken the lean in Idaho per CNN

Minidoka County 106-72 Biden 58% in est....

Was (77) caucus votes in '16 and (66-33 Sanders)....

Nothing wrong with a Primary in ID vs a Caucus if it builds Democratic turnout and voting in a fellow Pacific Northwest State....

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Biden started with a good speech, and then lost some energy towards the end, but overall I thought he did a good job in being gracious towards acknowledging Bernie Sander's contributions towards the growth of Progressive Policy Positions without engaging in any of the cr*p that many other Democratic PRES candidates (who endorsed Biden at a critical juncture) when it came to the whole "Red Baiting deal earlier in the debates)....

Actually overall Biden has been classy and fair with Bernie, and I believe the same on the other side....

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Hard to see Bernie winning Idaho with these early numbers.

Nothing from Boise yet.

Ada County is HUGE ID DEM stronghold, but caucus vs primary, plus campaign dynamics???

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ND results by County:

CNN shows TV at:

Sanders: 1,401 (43.8%)
Biden:     1,021 (31.9%)
Gabbard:     14  (0.4%)


DDHQ:

Same % numbers, but includes Warren, Amy, Pete, & Bloomberg...

Ward County: (53-45 Sanders)
Burleigh County: (44-32 Sanders)


Burleigh County is the 2nd largest POP Center within ND (Bismarck ND largest City 70k)....

Def good number from Sanders here (although obviously Cass County will be key in the DEM PRIM).

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I would not count Ada County out yet, considering not only is it a huge DEM breadbasket, but additionally contains tons of College Students and younger Tech folks as part of "Silicon Desert"....

Winning small rurals is awesome in a 'PUB contest, but we really don't have a recent historical context in a DEM PRIM in ID....

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Bernie lost the lead in Kent County, Michigan.

It's looking like a a clean sweep in the state with regards to counties. Bernie still holds a lead in Ingham but it's only by about 500 votes and there are still a few precincts left.

So Steeler, are they counting the absentee votes in MI now???

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Can we all admit that bill weld, for being a former governor, has performed embarrassingly in some of these races?

He got 11% in his home state he was gov of!  

Not even breaking 3% tonight

Hell, some guy running from a jail cell got double digits against obama in some primaries

Part of the problem is that many of these "Never Trumpers" crossed over and voted in DEM Primaries in the '20 Election cycle...

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Many on the left were hoping Bernie 2020 could be Reagan 1980 in follow up to his 2016 being Reagan 1976.

Problem is Reagan in the years in between elections, build bridges with much of the establishment(not just the Western Establishment but GOP one as a whole) and by the time he ran for President in 1980 he had most of the endorsements.

Sorry Ronald Reagan is not on the ballot within the Western United States in Primaries, let alone in any General Election.

Trying to do a '20 (let alone a '16) DEM PRIM vs '76/''80 PUB PRIM in Western States is a bit odd to say the least....

I remember Ronald Reagan.... Ronald Reagan was our President in '84... I grew up in a "broken home" and by the age of (14) was ordering West Point publications in rebellion against my "Boomer Parents" while meanwhile massive cuts were happening to social programs under the Reagan era in Oregon with on the highest states of Unemployment after Wave 2 of the "Reagan Recession"...

Old Skool 'Pub, take a look at the '88 DEM PRES MAP carefully and you will see what indicated the final collapse of Republican Presidential Support in Oregon, not to mention Oregon effectively becoming an overwhelmingly DEM State at the FED Level (Regardless of what appears to be consolidation at the Statewide Level in terms of OR-GOV, OR State House & Senate Races...

Ronald Reagan is a fictional ghost among many 'pubs, who realistically was a crap PRES, and essentially indirectly caused OR to become a SAFE DEM STATE when it comes to US-SEN & US-HOUSE races.... probably not the best place to discuss OR Politics, so we can take it to another room, but wanna talk election results fine, but jumping into a thread an posting statements, which at least in my particular perspective appear to be not only odd, but additionally irrelevant seems a bit strange.

That being said, I could easily see Biden winning Hillsboro and similar places in Washington County and upper $$$ places West Multnomah, where HRC did quite well in '16, parts of ClackCo, Upper-Income precincts down in Lane, Benton, & Jackson Counties.....

Bringing Ronald Reagan into a DEM PRIM thread might make your optics appears as a bit of a "Reagan Robot", although I understand this is not your intent, and quite frankly believe you are a decent poster overall....

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Madison County, ID, home of BYU-Idaho, flipped to Biden at the last minute by six votes.

Would the college even be much of a presence in a democratic primary considering it is Mormon and as such probably about 90-10 Republican?

In my experience, young Mormons are quite fed up with the GOP and many are Bernie fans, even if they hold relatively conservative views on a number of issues.

Echo RI on this.... 

Been around the block for 45 Years, and the stereotypes of many people of smaller religious minority populations (Mormons, Jews, Muslims, etc...) are not defined by the WASP/Catholic Narrative....

Oregon has a fairly high % of Mormons compared to most other States in the Country, that left MO to flee to the "rear bases" of either the Oregon Territories or the Utah Territories at a time where Religious Persecution was causing massive violence against a religious minority.

Many of y'all don't understand about how deeply the concept of religious persecution framed a certain type of solidarity with other religious minorities, where the "founding fathers" promised freedom from religion, but at the same time what worked for the Puritans doesn't work so well for the rest of us???

The times they are changin' and anybody that believes that "Mormons" are a monolithic Republican voting bloc can just check in with an "OLD GEE" Harry Reid, or hang out with some of my friends and parents who are Gen-Exers and parents that "drop-out" of church teachings awhile back but still believe in a more Progressive Version of the Church....

The Elders are changin' and Utah will start to become interesting as we see a hybrid structure as Millennials fully come on line, with SLC, with an historically heavily Catholic component combined with "Liberal Mormon Voters", the vast majority of whom were 100% behind the FDR New Deal & the Civil Rights Movement in the Deep South....

Pickin' on religious minorities is like shooting fish in barrels, and religious minority populations, although we might be oppressed and stereotyped regardless of some of family Jewish background, versus my Irish Catholic family background, versus....

Apologies for my rant.... was disgusted on the Anti-Romney slurs from 'PUB candidates in '12, didn't agree with his policy positions vs Obama in the GE, but hell at least there were sane PUBs back in the dayz....

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It looks like almost everything that's reported in ND is from the western part of the state. If there's an east-west split similar to SD 2016, then it's possible Biden could still win the state on the strength of Fargo/Grand Forks. Otherwise, Sanders may not be shut out completely.

He probably wins Cass by a decent margin, based on the results out of Bismarck. I might go so far as to say that, with the information we have, he is favored.

Where are you seeing results out of Bismarck?

DDHQ has it:

Sanders: 2,987 (47.5%)----    (Burleigh, Ward, Mountrail, Rollette) heavily Sanders--- Biden winning +20% in the Far-east County Richland...

Biden:   2,472   (39.3%)

CNN same margins....

Not seeing anything out of Bismarck or Cass.... missing something???

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It looks like almost everything that's reported in ND is from the western part of the state. If there's an east-west split similar to SD 2016, then it's possible Biden could still win the state on the strength of Fargo/Grand Forks. Otherwise, Sanders may not be shut out completely.

He probably wins Cass by a decent margin, based on the results out of Bismarck. I might go so far as to say that, with the information we have, he is favored.

Where are you seeing results out of Bismarck?

DDHQ has it:

Sanders: 2,987 (47.5%)----    (Burleigh, Ward, Mountrail, Rollette) heavily Sanders--- Biden winning +20% in the Far-east County Richland...

Biden:   2,472   (39.3%)

CNN same margins....

Not seeing anything out of Bismarck or Cass.... missing something???

No data in Cass- yet-- apologies if I implied otherwise.

So results from Bismarck  likely pulled off of the NYT site....

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/10/us/elections/results-north-dakota-president-democrat-caucus-election.html

Still we have favorable results posted from other caucus sites not yet reported....

[NOVA Green]

Annndd Bernie lost every county in Michigan now.

Can't even give me silver line Arch, like maybe there are a bunch of provisional ballots yet to be counted....

We can still hold Biden's "toes to the fire" to keep him honest on issues, regardless of perspectives of horse races and media pundits narratives...

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Grand Forks Co ND---   1,033 Sanders--- 766 Biden

Sioux ND---   (77-21 Sanders)

Looking good for Sanders thus far in ND....