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Question: How would you feel about having to be 21 to buy cigarettes?
#1
A national smoking age of 21 would be a good thing
 
#2
The states should feel free to raise their smoking age, but the federal government should stay out of it
 
#3
Municipalities should feel free to raise their smoking age, but the states and the federal government should stay out of it
 
#4
No way! Old enough to fight...
 
#5
If anything, 18 is too high a smoking age
 
#6
There shouldn't be a smoking age
 
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Total Voters: 87

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NOVA Green
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« on: July 28, 2017, 11:56:49 PM »

Absolutely Not....

Smoking and drinking should be legal at the age of 18, and if anything driving should be illegal for anyone under the age of 18, with the possible exception of having an adult >21 in the vehicle.

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NOVA Green
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2017, 10:22:12 PM »

Absolutely Not....

Smoking and drinking should be legal at the age of 18, and if anything driving should be illegal for anyone under the age of 18, with the possible exception of having an adult >21 in the vehicle.

Couldn't have said it better than Ole Barry.

It is kind of amazing how disturbingly paternalistic both forces on the left and the right are on matters that should be left to an individual's best judgment.  Of course only those with the loudest mouths and the biggest pocketbooks get their opinions heard which is why privileged s who live in gated communities in Greenwich are more likely to have an influence on public policy than say a middle class barkeep or policeman in Attleboro.

Frankly as a gay man who loves to smoke and drink and 420 I find the exercise of moral judgments by both religious fruitcake conservatives and nanny state liberals to be quite frustrating.  I shouldn't have to live in a country where virtually every aspect of my personal life ends up subject to moral regulation because some rich prick who has friends in a freaking Roman Classical built building in DC doesn't like it.

Here's an idea folks: how about going after people who are doing things that are actually evil?  Like molesting kids, abusing wives, or killing a bunch of people inside a McDonald's for the Hell of it?

Rant over.

Awesome!!!!

Gay Republican--- we are totally on the same page on all this stuff....

Sounds like we have a lot in common on Social Issues, and probably quite a few other items as well.

Since I've already gone off on the subject of smoking---- what does everyone think about "Sin Taxes"?

Apparently it's one of the few types of taxes that can be raised in both Democratic and Republican States alike....

If you drink alcohol, guess what your taxes went up.

If you smoke, guess what your taxes went up.

If you indulge in other "socially stigmatized behavior", guess what your taxes went up.

Needless to say these types of taxes hit the poor, working-class, and lower-middle-class populations the hardest, but who stands up to defend against these tax increases?

Meanwhile, voters try to raise the minimum wage, some states try to raise taxes on upper-income voters and corporations, or at a Federal Level  Minimum Wage increases and slightly higher tax burden on the Rich, and you have an onslaught of so-called "anti-tax" conservatives frothing at the bit....

It's always the poor that suffer.... famous quote from somewhere....
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