What happened in Wisconsin?

[NOVA Green]

How did Clinton and Trump perform in the Dairy producing regions of Wisconsin (Counties/Precincts)?

I've been noticing a similar pattern in several heavy dairy producing regions of Oregon, but not sure how much of that is just a general collapse of Democratic support in heavily agricultural producing counties in 2016 at large, or an industry specific phenomenon.

Dairy farmers and related dairy processing industries (Cheese, Ice Cream, etc...) traditionally seem to have a history of being a bit more Democratic leaning than some other agricultural industries, likely as a result of New Deal policies that both blended price support and agricultural subsidies for rural producers, (Dairy Cooperatives were common until fairly recently in the US) with food assistance programs for people living in the cities that couldn't afford the price of many food staples back during the Great Depression....

I don't recall either GE Presidential Candidate talking about agricultural issues at all, let alone the dairy industry.

Not sure if it is relevant, but would be interesting to see a map of high volume dairy producing counties and 2008/2012/2016 swings....

[NOVA Green]

Ok--- this thread is a bit ridiculous, judging by some of the recent posts here:

Clinton and her unbearable hubris happened.

Rural whites trending Republican.  Suburban whites trending Democrat.  This helped Democrats in states like Colorado and Virginia but hurt them in states like Wisconsin and Michigan.

There are a bunch of counties in Southern/Western Wisconsin that voted for Obama twice and now Trump. Half of the margin might be Milwaukee, but I really want to know what happened in these counties.

Bottom line---- Clinton lost Wisconsin because of a collapse in rural and small-town support among WWC voters.... the decreased Dem turnout in Milwaukie was offset by an improvement in the WOW suburbs....

Now Cynic did provide some interesting data, although it does focus on the CW of "Lower Black turnout in Milwaukie" as what many of y'all are obsessing on, it also shows swing patterns by county, and it does appear that there was a massive swing towards Trump in communities with a large percentage of workers in the paper & pulp mills, as I inquired about in another thread:

If you look at the swing in Northern Wisconsin, it is not coincidental that the biggest swing counties in Northern Wisconsin (Brown, Outgamie, Winnebego) are heavily paper mill counties.

Additionally, if we move a few miles West (Marathon, Portage, & Wood) are also major pulp and paper mill counties....

Y'all can focus everything on Black turnout in Milwaukie and what happened in Kenosha and Racine focused on Blue Collar workers in "traditional" manufacturing plants, while completely ignoring the collapse of Democratic support in rural and small-town Wisconsin....

ElectionsGuy has a really good thread a little further down that is definitely worthy of checking out...

[NOVA Green]

Ok--- this thread is a bit ridiculous, judging by some of the recent posts here:

Clinton and her unbearable hubris happened.

Rural whites trending Republican.  Suburban whites trending Democrat.  This helped Democrats in states like Colorado and Virginia but hurt them in states like Wisconsin and Michigan.

There are a bunch of counties in Southern/Western Wisconsin that voted for Obama twice and now Trump. Half of the margin might be Milwaukee, but I really want to know what happened in these counties.

Bottom line---- Clinton lost Wisconsin because of a collapse in rural and small-town support among WWC voters.... the decreased Dem turnout in Milwaukie was offset by an improvement in the WOW suburbs....

Now Cynic did provide some interesting data, although it does focus on the CW of "Lower Black turnout in Milwaukie" as what many of y'all are obsessing on, it also shows swing patterns by county, and it does appear that there was a massive swing towards Trump in communities with a large percentage of workers in the paper & pulp mills, as I inquired about in another thread:

If you look at the swing in Northern Wisconsin, it is not coincidental that the biggest swing counties in Northern Wisconsin (Brown, Outgamie, Winnebego) are heavily paper mill counties.

Additionally, if we move a few miles West (Marathon, Portage, & Wood) are also major pulp and paper mill counties....

Y'all can focus everything on Black turnout in Milwaukie and what happened in Kenosha and Racine focused on Blue Collar workers in "traditional" manufacturing plants, while completely ignoring the collapse of Democratic support in rural and small-town Wisconsin....

ElectionsGuy has a really good thread a little further down that is definitely worthy of checking out...

Your Oregon-ness is showing...

Nice call out.. didn't even realize I had misspelled Milwaukee... thought all y'all had come out on the Oregon Trail and named the City in Oregon after your hometown....

Still curious about what happened in paper mill counties in Wisconsin  (Think I spelled that correctly) like: Brown, Outgamie, Winnebego