Georgia senate seats runoff(s) megathread

[GeneralMacArthur]

Not wanting a Dem trifecta is the height of madness.

We already know exactly what McConnell is going to do.  We already know exactly where this country is going.  The Senate Republicans are beyond salvation.  They won't even recognize that Biden won the election!  The Biden presidency is going to begin with Senate Republicans refusing to pass any COVID stimulus package, and that will be the first in a series of actions intended to intentionally destroy America, so that they can blame it on Biden.  And just like with Obama, dummy Americans will believe it.  "Oh, he didn't have a good relationship with Congress.  He wasn't a good compromiser."

[GeneralMacArthur]

Not wanting a Dem trifecta is the height of madness.

We already know exactly what McConnell is going to do.  We already know exactly where this country is going.  The Senate Republicans are beyond salvation.  They won't even recognize that Biden won the election!  The Biden presidency is going to begin with Senate Republicans refusing to pass any COVID stimulus package, and that will be the first in a series of actions intended to intentionally destroy America, so that they can blame it on Biden.  And just like with Obama, dummy Americans will believe it.  "Oh, he didn't have a good relationship with Congress.  He wasn't a good compromiser."

If it makes Biden a one term president, good.

How about, I don't know, actually running the country and doing good things for people?

Is it worth letting thousands of small businesses go under, and millions of people loses their jobs and go bankrupt, if it helps Biden lose in 2024?

Has your party ever considered engaging in politics in an honest and productive way, where both sides try to do good things for America, and whichever party does more good things wins?

[GeneralMacArthur]

Folks on the ground in Georgia, what's your read?  What does the local coverage look like?

From 2,500 miles away, I'm seeing a lot of negative characterization of Warnock that seems like it will be pretty effective (despite being false) if he can't find a stronger retort.  Meanwhile the attempts to pin Loeffler/Perdue with financial crimes don't seem to be sticking (despite being true).  However, most of what I'm hearing out of Georgia isn't about the Senate race, it's about the Presidential race, with Trump's team essentially in an all-out war with the Republican governor, secretary of state, and state party, which looks really cringey for anyone still standing by Trump.  I'm also seeing a fair amount of "stand up for Trump by not voting for Loeffler/Perdue", but it feels like it's being over-magnified by social media.  Overall I'd say both races are Lean R, but if the Trump nonsense continues to dominate headlines and Loeffler/Perdue have a stumbling interview or two about it, or Warnock/Ossoff a really good headline-making quote about it, they could move towards toss-up.

How accurate is this? 

[GeneralMacArthur]

Oh my god, I would pay literally all my money to be able to jump into Warnock's body and just trash the s--t out of Loeffler.  I think this is one of those places where the Trump debate strategy is really called for.  Just call her out for relying on the same 4 lies, interrupt her every time she lies, call her a child for continually using the "radical liberal Raphael Warnock" thing, etc.

By the way, leftists, have you noticed that Loeffler's entire strategy to win this debate is to accuse Warnock of supporting "defund the police" and the Green New Deal?  Imagine if we hadn't served up those weapons on a silver platter to the GOP.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Jesus Christ she's a f--king robot.  She just recited her previous answer word-for-word and completely ignored the question.  CHRIS CHRISTIE PLEASE DESTROY THIS WOMAN

[GeneralMacArthur]

Every time an American politician says "look" you know they're going to dodge the question.

[GeneralMacArthur]

I doubt Loeffler will be invited to Ebenezer Baptist or any other Black church after this....

But politicians shouldn't be visiting churches in the first place

I massively disagree.  We need politicians to be men and women of God who are going to church.  Saying that they should not go to church is also establishing a religious test on public office.  I do think that our country would be a much better place if all of our politicians in both parties were exclusively devout, churchgoing Evangelical Protestants.  But, I can't enforce that by law.

Well, you surely will be supporting Raphael Warnock then.  Loeffler spent the debate attacking Warnock for being a pastor, for being friends with other pastors, for giving sermons on well-known bible verses, and so on.  Warnock, on the other hand, is a pastor -- not just any pastor, but the successor to Martin Luther King Jr.

I would bet my entire net worth that Kelly Loeffler hasn't actually opened a bible once in the last five years.  I've seen no evidence that she is a Christian, and minimal evidence that she's a warm-blooded human at all.

What would Jesus say about Loeffler's non-stop lies?  What would he say about her enriching herself with insider trading while hiding COVID from her constituents?  These are things that are not in dispute.  It's just a matter of priorities -- some of us think these matter, others of us just use abortion as a trump card and prioritize the abortion issue over literally everything else, despite no politician on either side doing anything to change national abortion laws in decades.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Why did Ossoff not bring this energy before November then? He was just 0.3% away from being denied the chance to go to a runoff at all, and that would have cost Democrats the Senate. Warnock at least had the excuse that a runoff in the special was inevitable.

He did, he just got crowded out by the heated presidential race and the other heated Senate campaign. Ossoff has been killing it, there's a reason Perdue won't show up to these debates, his ads are great and he's going to win.

Yeah Ossoff did that memey ad where he was walking down the street towards the camera that made the ladies of Resistance Twitter swoon.

[GeneralMacArthur]

I doubt Loeffler will be invited to Ebenezer Baptist or any other Black church after this....

But politicians shouldn't be visiting churches in the first place

I massively disagree.  We need politicians to be men and women of God who are going to church.  Saying that they should not go to church is also establishing a religious test on public office.  I do think that our country would be a much better place if all of our politicians in both parties were exclusively devout, churchgoing Evangelical Protestants.  But, I can't enforce that by law.

Well, you surely will be supporting Raphael Warnock then.  Loeffler spent the debate attacking Warnock for being a pastor, for being friends with other pastors, for giving sermons on well-known bible verses, and so on.  Warnock, on the other hand, is a pastor -- not just any pastor, but the successor to Martin Luther King Jr.

I would bet my entire net worth that Kelly Loeffler hasn't actually opened a bible once in the last five years.  I've seen no evidence that she is a Christian, and minimal evidence that she's a warm-blooded human at all.

What would Jesus say about Loeffler's non-stop lies?  What would he say about her enriching herself with insider trading while hiding COVID from her constituents?  These are things that are not in dispute.  It's just a matter of priorities -- some of us think these matter, others of us just use abortion as a trump card and prioritize the abortion issue over literally everything else, despite no politician on either side doing anything to change national abortion laws in decades.

I mean...I agree with you.

But ExtremeRepublican is ardently pro-life. And...Warnock isn't. That's ER's priority. Even if I disagree.

ExtremeRepublican shouldn't go around commenting on threads about politics or acting like he gives a damn about anything else, then, if it really is just pro-life = good, pro-choice = bad, and nothing else matters.

I mean if this guy would vote for Joseph Stalin himself if Stalin was pro-life and his opponent was pro-choice, then he shouldn't go around bashing communism.  Clearly it's not that big an issue as delivering red meat speeches on the Senate floor about the sanctity of life (which is all the pro-life politicians actually do).

[GeneralMacArthur]

I mean if this guy would vote for Joseph Stalin himself if Stalin was pro-life and his opponent was pro-choice, then he shouldn't go around bashing communism.  Clearly it's not that big an issue as delivering red meat speeches on the Senate floor about the sanctity of life (which is all the pro-life politicians actually do).

On an unrelated tangent, Stalin, Ceaucescu, Hitler, and Kim Jong Un were all "pro-life", because they banned abortions. I wonder if they got any praise for doing so.

I wonder if ExtremeRepublican would rather Kim Jong Un be president over Biden, because Kim Jong Un would ban abortion.  Do ya think he'll respond?

[GeneralMacArthur]

Gotta love seeing "bipartisan" Steve Daines running around with Louie Gohmert, Sarah Palin, MJT and Jim Jordan a few weeks after his election.

[GeneralMacArthur]

So far this is pointing towards a resounding rejection of the last six weeks under Republican rule.

If so, that's a big relief.

I'll admit I was pessimistic.  Voters haven't given a damn about anything thus far.  Why would the Republican Party openly and proudly trying to throw out the results of the election make any difference?  Why would Kelly Loeffler being an absolutely pathetic robot matter?  All voters need to hear is "endorsed by Trump" and "radical socialist agenda" a million times and they'll know how to vote.

But it looks like there may be some folks starting to see the light.  Hope this isn't posting too soon!